Chance for UCs

<p>Hi guys, currently a senior hoping to get into UC school listed. I know my ACT is very low, but it should definitely improve with the scores coming back in a week or two..<br>
Applying to UCSD, UCB, UCLA, UCSB, UCI</p>

<p>GPA: 4.0 (unweighted)
ACT: 22 - will be going up</p>

<p>Senior Schedule:</p>

<p>AP Chemistry
Organic Chemistry
Honors English 12
Organic Chemistry/Study Hall (Half year)
Student Aide/Statistics&Probability (Half year)
Honors U.S Government
Physics (Dual Credit)
AP Calculus</p>

<p>Junior Schedule:</p>

<p>Web Page Development
Economics
Advanced Math (Trig and Pre-Calc)
Comparative Anatomy & Physiology (Bio II)
Clay 1
Forensic Science
Honors English 11
Spanish 3
Honors Chemistry</p>

<p>EC (Including Senior Year)</p>

<p>National Honors Society (11-12)
Sophomore Class President
Key Club (9-10, 12)
Reading Development Enrichment (9-10)
Interact Club (11-12)
Hugh O'Brian Youth Leadership (10)
Varsity Tennis (9-12) Will have 4 letters by end of Senior Year.
Varsity Tennis Co-Captain (11-12)
Senior Class Secretary
Future Business Leaders of America (12)
Spanish Club (11-12)
Ski Club (12)</p>

<p>Other things that might affect my chances?</p>

<p>Valedictorian Candidate
Class Rank 1/343
1st generation to attend college
Resident of Ohio</p>

<p>bump, also JA Economics High School Hero - teaching economics to 6th graders once per week for 6 weeks</p>

<p>You need to calculate your UC GPA <a href=“GPA Calculator for the University of California – RogerHub”>http://rogerhub.com/gpa-calculator-uc/&lt;/a&gt;
For OOS, only your AP classes Sophomore/Junior year will count for the extra honors points. Your Unweighted GPA looks great, but your ACT needs to be around 28+ for UCI/UCSB and 32+ for UCLA/UCB. Also are you full pay?? because UC’s give little or no financial aid to OOS students. Your price tag to attend will be around $53-55K/year. Until your ACT score comes back, all are reaches…
<a href=“Student Profile - Office of Undergraduate Admissions”>http://admissions.berkeley.edu/studentprofile&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/prospect/Adm_fr/Frosh_Prof14.htm”>http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/prospect/Adm_fr/Frosh_Prof14.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Why do you want to go to school in CA?</p>

<p>Thanks Gumby! Wouldn’t my UC GPA still be 4.0 if I took no AP classes my soph/junior year? And yeah, I’m aware of the cost to attend… </p>

<p>@DrGoogle I’m actually from CA. I was born and raised there for the first 3 years of my life and still have a lot of family over there. It’s just nice everytime I visit. Hopefully, I’m able to live a new life over there instead of being stuck in Ohio. & because those universities are pretty good :smile: </p>

<p>I don’t blame you. The people I know from Ohio want to get out of Ohio. What about OOS tuition?</p>

<p>No AP classes could be a problem. But who knows OOS full pay could be a plus. But you have 2 weakness that I see UCGPA and low standardized test scores. Your ECs are great.</p>

<p>@drgoogle Ohio just isn’t that great of a place to live… Family isn’t really too worried about OOS tuition. Also, after a year, if im a california resident, wouldn’t I be getting in-state tuition? Counselor explained that to me but am still confused on how everything works. But yeah, my school only offers 4 AP classes total… 1 junior year and 3 senior year & test scores are horrible :frowning: they will be going up though </p>

<p>I don’t think it works out that way unless one of your parents moved to California.</p>

<p>@ChiefTeeph: You cannot get in-state tuition unless you are living with a parent in California, whom pays taxes, has a California drivers license and owns or rents a home or apartment. You need to speak to your parents about paying OOS fees for awhile.</p>

<p>See information below::</p>

<p>How to Establish Residency for Tuition Purposes</p>

<p>If you are an adult student (at least 18 years of age), you may establish residency for tuition purposes in California if you are a:
• U.S. citizen
• Permanent Resident, or
• a student holding one of the following eligible visas: A, E, G, H1, H4, I, K, L, N, NATO, O1, O3 (dependent of O1), R, T, TPS, U, or V.</p>

<p>Adult students cannot derive residence from a spouse or parents. For rules applying to minors, click here.</p>

<p>In order to be classified as a resident for tuition purposes, you must fulfill ALL 3 requirements listed below:

  1. Physical Presence: You must be physically present in California for more than one year (366 days) immediately prior to the residence determination date of the term for which classification as a resident is requested.</p>

<ol>
<li>Intent: You must establish your intent to make California your home one year prior to the residence determination date of the term for which classification as a resident is requested.</li>
</ol>

<p>If you are physically present in California solely for educational purposes, you will not be eligible for resident classification regardless of the length of your stay in California. The physical presence requirement (above) will be extended until you can demonstrate a concurrence of both physical presence and intent for one full year.</p>

<ol>
<li>Financial Independence: If you will not reach age 24 by December 31 of the year in which classification as a resident is requested, and are not dependent upon a California resident parent (biological or legally adoptive only) for tuition purposes, you will be required to satisfy the University’s self-sufficiency requirement.</li>
</ol>

<p>It should be noted that this requirement makes it extremely difficult for most undergraduates who do not have a parent domiciled in California to qualify for classification as a resident at a University of California campus.</p>

<p>If I am an out-of-state/nonresident student, what should I do once I arrive in California?</p>

<p>Bear in mind that even though you will probably not submit a petition to change your residency status until the end of your first academic year at Berkeley, you must start the residency process as soon as you arrive. The following are guidelines as to what you must do in order to establish California residency for tuition purposes.
• Document your presence in the state as soon as you arrive. Save your airline ticket or bank/credit card statements showing that you were physically present in California one year prior to the beginning of the term for which you are seeking resident classification.
• Obtain a California Driver’s License within 10 days of arriving in California. If you have never had a driver’s license in any state, then you must obtain a California Identification Card.
• Surrender all out-of-state driver’s license and identification cards.
• Register your vehicle(s) in California within 20 days of arriving in the state.
• Register to vote in California, and vote in California elections.
• Pay California income taxes as a resident on all taxable income earned after your arrival in California and file California resident or part-year resident tax returns.
• File nonresident or part-year resident out-of-state tax returns if you have out-of-state taxable income prior to arriving in California.
• Designate and use a California address as your permanent address on all records (e.g., school, employment, tax forms, military, etc.).
• Open a California bank account and close out-of-state accounts. If your financial account is with an interstate or internet bank, change your permanent address to California.
• Establish a California residence in which you keep your permanent belongings.
• Obtain a professional license to practice in California, if applicable.</p>

<p>Note: The student is cautioned that this summation is not a complete explanation of the laws regarding residence. Please note that changes may be made in the residence requirements between the publication date of this statement and the relevant determination date. Non-citizen students should consult the Residence Affairs Officer for information regarding special criteria in determining residency eligibility. If you have questions, call (510) 644-9181. At the campus level, the Residence Affairs Officer is the only person qualified to answer residence questions or to make a residence determination. No other University personnel is authorized to supply information relative to residence requirements for tuition purposes.</p>

<p>Your counselor does not seem to understand our California rules for resident tuition. </p>

<p>If you are coming to California, for educational purposes, and are under the age of 24, you will be paying OOS tuition for all of your undergraduate years. That’s $55-60k per year. Can your parents afford those costs? Nearly a quarter of a million dollars for your degree.</p>

<p>Explain to your counselor that California is out of money and they accept OOS students for full pay, all 4 years. You can’t get instate tuition by just attending school for a year; it is extremely difficult.</p>

<p>Thanks for the feedback guys!! I’m aware of the costs of OOS tuition… Would things change if I had grandparents that lived over there and I plan on living with them?</p>

<p>You cannot get California Residency unless you are independent of your parents or your parents live in California. Grandparents or other relatives do not count unless they have legal guardianship. See link for more information. This is off the UCB website, but it will apply to any university in California.
<a href=“http://registrar.berkeley.edu/establish.html?no_server_init”>http://registrar.berkeley.edu/establish.html?no_server_init&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Thanks for all the info guys!! :smile: </p>

<p>I just got my ACT scores back and well… it’s not much higher. It’s a 25.
But let’s say after two more times of taking it, it bumps up to a 30. How would my chances be?</p>

<p>Also, I was able to land two more officer positions in school clubs</p>

<p>Interact Club - Vice President
FBLA - Parliamentarian</p>

<p>Thanks!</p>

<p>A 3-point increase in your ACT score is better than most students achieve, but expecting another five-point rise is unrealistic if you are a senior. When do you expect to sit for the tests again before the application deadline? </p>

<p>That 3-point increase just getting a good night’s sleep and eating breakfast compared to the last ACT. I actually got to question 18 on the Reading part and she called 5 minutes… so that was only a 22. I’m currently signed up for the October ACT and will be prepping this time. I also expect to take the December one as well. </p>