Chance me for CA schools/NYU

<p>Please chance me for any of these:
Scripps
Pitzer
University of San Diego
Chapman University
UC San Diego
UC Santa Barbara
UC Irvine
UC Santa Cruz
Cal Poly SLO
Cal Poly Pomona
San Diego State
NYU</p>

<p>New York State Resident</p>

<p>UC GPA: 3.8
unweighted GPA: 3.7
ACT: 31
Took AP Physics and AP US History this year, expecting 4/5s on both.
SAT subjects: Bio 700, US History 600, Physics 620</p>

<p>Volunteer work: through red cross, public library and local museums.I'll probably have about 100 volunteer hours once I apply.</p>

<p>Extracurriculars:
Photography editor of school magazine all grades
Primary singer in school musical grades 9 and 10
Latin Club grade 10
National Honors Society grade 11
Part-time job</p>

<p>Misc:
2 "Cum Laude" Awards for high achievement on National Latin Exam
I'm black if minority status makes a difference; raised by a single parent who is physically disabled.</p>

<p>**For my senior year I'm doing a special program for students interested in pre-med where in the morning I follow around doctors for a hands-on look at the medical field and in the afternoon I come back to take classes. This limits the number of APs I can take, so I'm only taking AP bio. However, the program speaks for itself in that only 12 kids out of my entire county are selected to participate.</p>

<p>I think you have a good shot all of the CSUs, UCSC, Scripps and USD. The other UCs would be a reach if you were a CA student, but it still remains to be seen whether OOS students will get in with lower stats as the UCs accept more of them. Particularly schools like UCI, which doesn’t get a lot of OOS interest.</p>

<p>Do realize the UCs and CSUs will not offer aid beyond the federal.</p>

<p>fail…</p>

<p>Thanks redroses. Actually OOS kids have a worse chance then in-state so I don’t think I’ll have any better luck.</p>

<p>Eloves: uhh, fail? According to college board, my ACT score is within or above the middle 50% range for all the schools I asked about. Wouldn’t say it’s a fail…</p>

<p>Also don’t know if it’ll make any difference at all, but I realized I’ve been miscalculating my UC GPA. It comes out to a bit over a 3.9 when I include extra points for APs.</p>

<p>I think Scripps and Pitzer are the hardest to get into on that list, actually. Since you’re OOS you’re going to have a rough time with the state schools. Have you looked at USF?Since it’s private it would be easier for you to get in OOS from there.</p>

<p>You should be aware that Cal Poly SLO is not like the other the CSUs in difficulty of gaining admission. GPAs and SAT scores of accepted students there are more typical of the UCs than the other CSUs and probably higher than UC Merced and UC Riverside.</p>

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rosyhours, this is a common misconception. Even at the most competetive UCs, the admit rates for instate/oos have been very similar. In addition, the UC system is currently looking toward expanding oos enrollment as a way to increase funding. Just as an example, oos admission rates at UCSC for 2009 were 64.3% (non-California domestic) while the overall admission rate was 63.2%, so even last year before the decision to expand full-pay oos admission, oos students had a slightly better “chance” at UCSC than in-state.
[University</a> of California: StatFinder](<a href=“http://statfinder.ucop.edu/StatFinder/drawtable.aspx?track=1]University”>http://statfinder.ucop.edu/StatFinder/drawtable.aspx?track=1)
[University</a> of California - Admissions](<a href=“http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/undergrad_adm/selecting/camp_profiles/camp_profiles_ucsc.html]University”>http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/undergrad_adm/selecting/camp_profiles/camp_profiles_ucsc.html)
[University</a> of California: StatFinder](<a href=“http://statfinder.ucop.edu/default.aspx]University”>http://statfinder.ucop.edu/default.aspx)</p>

<p>Also, as redroses already mentioned, please be aware that oos students will pay approximately $50,000/year to attend a UC and will not generally be eligible for aid beyond the Federal aid offered (which - depending on EFC - generally amounts to at most $10,000/yr in grants and loans).</p>

<p>*Another note: The UCs are barred by state law from considering race or ethnicity in admissions.</p>

<p>alamemom hit the nail on the head. Being OOS will not hurt your chances for gaining admittance to a UC school, but are you prepared to pay the high costs? Along with a good academic record, you have a serious hook - URM w/ a single, disabled parent - which would go a long way to help you getting into some private universities. But, like alamemom said, the UC’s will not consider race or ethnicity. Consider USF; Stanford would be a big reach, but you never know.</p>

<p>sarsfield: Yeah, the unfortunate thing is that it appears that most of the private schools are either filled with lazy children of millionaires or too much of a reach for me academically. And I would check out USF but I’m trying to stay more southern. I am applying to Chapman, USD, Pitzer and Scripps though. Any ideas of my chances there?</p>

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Interesting. It seems those “lazy” children of millionaires managed to put together an academic record that got *them *into the private schools that are a reach for you.</p>

<p>alamemom: Relax. I’m just repeating info that I see again and again off sites like **************.com saying that kids who bought their way into the school don’t seem to appreciate what they’re given educationally and never show up to class. No need to get so hostile. I really do appreciate whatever advice you guys can give me on getting in to these schools/narrowing down my list. </p>

<p>And as for the private schools filled with lazy rich kids, their average admitted stats for gpa and act are lower than mine so I’m not really seeing a “reach” issue here.</p>

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I am not hostile at all. Clearly, you feel you are superior to one and all and I am certainly not going to argue. Also, having checked your past posts it seems you expect that you will be paying in-state rates after one year at a UC. That cheers me up greatly :slight_smile: . Best of luck to you.</p>

<p>I just don’t really see where you’re coming from about the superiority thing. All the info I have is just based off of data/reviews of students. </p>

<p>I see so many great California schools where the students are motivated yet have a good social balance, etc etc but they are reaches for me. Yet I see schools that I can likely get in to based off of cold hard numbers (not me being “superior to one and all”) get reviews like this one:</p>

<p>“In my experience, it seems to be spilling over with over-privileged, spoiled brats who are failing to appreciate their college opportunities. Apparently, there is no respect for their parents money that is paying for very expensive tuition and housing.”</p>

<p>So, like I said, “Yeah, the unfortunate thing is that it appears that most of the private schools are either filled with lazy children of millionaires or too much of a reach for me academically.”</p>

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I will try to put this in perspective for you. First of all, you have - based on one anonymous review - stated that all students at private schools you are a match for are lazy and spoiled. As a parent of a student at a private university I strongly disagree with your stereotype. (Although I will grant that the private university she attends would be a slight reach for you, not a match.)</p>

<p>Second, and you have to really think this through, you are talking about yourself. If these schools are matches for you in terms of your complete profile, then the students there are similar to you in many ways. And as your possible list includes several UCs and CSUs while you are a NY resident, it seems you are willing to spend two to three times more of your parents’ money to attend a California state school than it would cost them for you to attend one of the many SUNYs. So… your quote about having no respect for their parent’s money… </p>

<p>Again, if these private schools are a “match” for you, it seems the students there probably put in a similar amount of work in high school as you - so if you were lazy in high school, perhaps your blanket statement applies. If you worked hard to put together your academic profile it is likely the other students at your match schools did, too - despite that anonymous review. If the academic profile is similar to yours (and a similar academic profile is what makes it a “match,” right?), do you feel *you *would have to “buy” your way in? From your answer - that you are well qualified for the school and can get in on your own merits - indicates that you do not feel it would be neccessary. So why do you believe other students at a school that matches your profile “bought” their way in??? Theoretically, the reason it is a “match” is because they have profiles just like yours.</p>

<p>Anyway, as I said, I do not feel hostile toward you. You are simply displaying the incomplete thought process typical of a teenager. You would be far better off to look at schools with an open mind. Visit and see what YOU think of the students there. </p>

<p>P.S. You will be paying oos rates for all four years at a UC. fyi</p>