<p>Legacy (two generations)
SAT (740 CR, 550 M, 700 W) - retaking M, hoping for mid 600s and upping others
GPA 3.5 Rank 32/150 (top 25%)
All honors, AP classes - all non-A grades in math and science
ECs - Choir, Band, Theater, Student Government, some leadership roles
Lots of part-time work experience
Great recommendations and essays
Applying CAS - English, History, Education
White male
Love Penn!!</p>
<p>Applying Early Decision
WHAT ARE MY CHANCES?</p>
<p>The class rank really hurts you, unless you go to a top prep school. I’m not sure the legacy can overcome that obstacle. Gotta get that MATH score up!</p>
<p>Regarding legacy, has your family been paying their dues by donating? </p>
<p>SAT looks fine except for Math. That has to be fixed (study hard for it). The others are fine: generally 700 or above is good enough. I’m guessing it’s too late to much about GPA/rank which looks bad but are you going to a competitive school that Penn is familiar with?</p>
<p>Family donates regularly, a few thousand.</p>
<p>Attend small public high school in philly suburbs (upper middle class, but not one of the best); we send several to Penn each year.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, it doesn’t look like you stand a very competitive chance. The double legacy + ED holds a great force, but the weak grades (most important factor) and relatively low SATs (definitely not strong enough to overcome low grades) coupled with the lack of very meaningful ECs makes for an application that will not likely stand out in the applicant pool. Assuming you’re a junior, you may have a little bit of time to work out/improve a few things, but you never know! The Ivy admissions process has become increasingly arbitrary and unpredictable-- maybe something will stand out. Nevertheless, good luck!</p>
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<p>I’d say your chance is decent.</p>
<p>Yes. Coming from the Philly area helps too.</p>
<p>CR 740 M 690 W 700 (2130)
Top 20%</p>
<p>What are my chances now?</p>
<p>Legacies tend to have higher acceptance rates simply because the applicant’s tend to come from wealthier families and are typically more qualified. The fact that you’re GPA is so low, will most probably keep you out. But your SAT scores are okay, indicating a below average chance.</p>
<p>@pennboy
You are just going to have do have killer essays.
Your Why Penn? should be really solid, given your multiple connections to the place.
What I want to know is: how did you get your math scores up so significantly? What was your strategy? thanks</p>
<p>5 months of math tutoring and practice tests covering stuff I never understood was how I got my math up so far. I’m smart I just never understood math. I still have to take subjects, hoping that I can retain enough for the math I test.</p>
<p>that 32/150 is really going to hurt you. Like others said, Legacy might not pull you in. The math score is also kind of low. I dont have the stats infront of me but If you are not in the middle 50% for math, you are in a pickle. </p>
<p>Only 3% of the top 20% kids get into penn. Unfortunately, you do not even qualify in the second decile.
Your math score is barely in the middle 50%. From pure statistics, your chances do not look encouraging. Write good essays and who knows?
Take a look:[Penn</a> Admissions: Incoming Class Profile](<a href=“http://www.admissions.upenn.edu/profile/]Penn”>http://www.admissions.upenn.edu/profile/)</p>
<p>@pennboy – why take the math sat subject test? Penn doesn’t require it. I would stick to where your strengths are.</p>
<p>I don’t know if you are asking for FA, and, yes I know that they SAY they don’t consider that, but in this economy, if you are paying full freight, applying ED as a legacy with good (original, fresh, making you look like a great asset to Penn type essays), I think acceptance is in the realm of possibility.</p>
<p>I get tuition remission due to my parent’s employment at Penn. So I won’t be asking for FA. I don’t know how Penn views that or if they have a certain quota.</p>
<p>So you have alumni AND employees eh? that’s pretty good.</p>
<p>Bump bump bump bump</p>
<p>^ you should be working on essays, not bumping chance threads ;)</p>
<p>your chances aren’t that great as an unhooked applicant but if you have double legacy AND an employee parent I’d say you have a decent shot</p>
<p>Wow 2 generations of legacy and they couldn’t teach you math. Honestly, that might upset Penn because if your family went there, you’ve certainly had opportunities. But, if your family has given a lot of money to Penn, then it’ll be another story. I don’t know how smart Samantha Perelman is but she’s at Penn, and her mother and father went there (hence, Claudia Cohen Hall and the Perelman Quad). Anyway, you have to apply ED and give it your all.</p>