chance me please !

<p>I am a high school junior going on senior
I am applyinh to Upenn ED, Johns Hopkins, and NYU, cornell, ....Penn State main
I have a 97 average, 25/ 500, top 5 %
I will take AP Bio , AP English , AP chem 2 ,AP American History .others are honors
2050 SAT
I want to become a physician , major in Bio probably
I an a URM , Brazilian , Born in brazil moved here at age 4 , speak portuguese</p>

<p>Activites : Track and field 9- present, cross country 11- present, BFS ( bigger faster stronger intermural program) 9th - 10th . ski and snowboard 9-10, anime club 9-10, NHS, SGA - 11 class rep., HOSA( health occupation students of America) 11- present.Peer tutor 10th</p>

<p>Community - knitting 100 baby hats for hospital, Make a wish car wash, march of dimes, Adopt a Family, Second chance pet rescue, collections for GI's. Chairperson of community service for local hosa chapter,</p>

<p>Junior Ambassoder to the MN association, Equine assisted equilibrium volunteer, library childrens program volunteer</p>

<p>Summer program - National Youth Leadership Forum on Medicine </p>

<p>Awards - 1st place state medical Terminology competion ,hope to win at nationals ! Who's Who, Breakfest of champions , most improved runner , Perfect attendence 9th and 11th , 10( missed 1 day).</p>

<p>that sums it for the most part . thank you</p>

<p>Who's Who of High School Students is nothing.
Perfect attendence is nothing.</p>

<p>My concern is your SAT. Premed programs are among the most competitive. A 2050, which is an OK score for an Ivy, may not swing you with that major. Especially at Hopkins.</p>

<p>But your ECs are great!</p>

<p>However I would expect UPenn to defer you from early (if they don't reject you). You need more schools. Look at LACs (Williams, Amherst, Colby, Bates, Tufts, etc) which may be more forgiving with scores and "slightly" less competitive.</p>

<p>Otherwise you might end up at Penn State. Although, I think NYU will admit you.</p>

<p>i also have clinical expierience at the hospital, a lot of it 2</p>

<p>Doessn't my urm help me ? anyone else?</p>

<p>It's not as big of a deal as people think. Especially not at bigger schools. If you were applying to a school that didn't have enough Brazilians/Latinos/Hispanics, then sure. Other than that...eh</p>

<p>SAT scores are not everything. If you really want to go there and you feel you're qualified, then apply. You lose nothing.
But then, again, as ses said, you might want to look into LACs e.g. Williams. You'll probably have a strong application, and med school will be in sight. Plus you can still take other classes that interest you while doing your Bio major, and get good opportunities to study/research abroad during your time at college.</p>

<p>What are your SAT2's like?</p>

<p>well I haven't quite gotten my scores yet for the SAT 2 , I can also retake my SAT's if you feel that they are that bad. Will it help if i win a National competition in medical terminology?</p>

<p>Hi there, as a Brazilian I can tell you that Brazilians are not considered in the Hispanic category and therefore are not considered URMs unless, of course, you are a black Brazilian, etc. White Brazilian won't do anything for you</p>

<p>well, last time i check URM meant underepresented minority, how many Brazilians do u see every day ? not many i'll bet , Brazil is in south america , any country in south america is hispanic , if being brazilian is not what does that make me ... european? I don't think so.</p>

<p>lolabelle and I are just telling you what you know. You shouldn't expect being an URM to get you in.</p>

<p>i don't think it will get me in like that, i added it though because everyone else does, and most on this site seem to make a big deal about it. However i just replyed back becuase what I said was true, i mean Brazilian is hispanic and a URM , whether or not it affects college admissions or not. and so i guss it just hurts to see it labeled as nothing. as for my applications, I really would like some advice and i'd like 2 know if that national competition would help me at all. so any advice is appreciated</p>

<p>I have no idea what the medical terminology competition is. It won't get you nearly as far as Intel or National Merit, but hey, being the best in the country at something is always good.</p>

<p>OP: </p>

<p>A Hispanic person is from a Spanish-speaking country. Brazil, Haiti, and other non-Spanish speaking countries do not count. I am sorry you are surprised by it, but get used to it. Research a little what "Hispanic" means (it's a term created by the U.S. Census) and you'll find out for yourself that Hispanic is not synonymous with "Latin American". Unless you are a non-white Brazilian, you will not be considered a URM. </p>

<p>And, even if you were, you can't expect that to open major doors for you.</p>

<p>No need, too, to school me on where on the globe Brazil is located. I lived there for 18 years, thanks. ;)</p>

<p>Also, UPenn, for one, is not lacking in Brazilians. My brother studies there and there are about 25 Brazilians that he knows of personally in his year.</p>

<p>I'm not trying to school you, and i'm not trying to say that it will get me in anywhere , but as i said previously i added it because all do, it is however a urm, regardless if it has any impact on college admission , furthermore out of about 2000 people in my high school, i only ever knew 1 brazilian and he graduated last year , i am the only one now, as for spanish people there are at least 3 in evey clsss. the point i'm trying to make here is that a urm is any ethnic group that is underrepresented... Asian is not anymore for example because they seem to be overrepresented. it does not really matter that Brazilian's speek portuguese and not spanish, that does not mean that brazilians make it big time in the us , cause they don't. it's still a 3rd world country, a struggling nation. i lived there 2, and i'm not trying to start an argument, but as i posted befere i just want help on the admissions part, thats all i ever wanted.</p>

<p>eh....i think ur stuff if good but remmeber there is a ton of other kids who have better ec's and scores than you, but you neever no</p>

<p>So is my country (india)? By that logic I should be a urm too right?</p>

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A Hispanic person is from a Spanish-speaking country. Brazil, Haiti, and other non-Spanish speaking countries do not count. I am sorry you are surprised by it, but get used to it. Research a little what "Hispanic" means (it's a term created by the U.S. Census) and you'll find out for yourself that Hispanic is not synonymous with "Latin American". Unless you are a non-white Brazilian, you will not be considered a URM.

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<p>Lolabelle, could you please tell Brazilianchica88 which box she SHOULD mark when applying to your very own Tufts?</p>

<p>To save you the step of researching the issue, it does seem that Tufts uses the Common Application ... a form where the difference between Hispanics or Latinos (if there is one) is absolutely irrelevant. While the are categories for, say, Mexican-Americans, the major one is simply styled Hispanics and Latinos and asks the applicant to identify the country. </p>

<p>So the fact that the US Census "invented" a category for Hispanics has no relevance to college applications. For more Washington follies, you may check the history of Tony Coelho, who Coelho was born in California to parents of Portuguese descent, and the Congressional Hispanic Caucus. The Congressional Hispanic Caucus is supposed to comprise the Democratic Members of the United States Congress of Hispanic descent. </p>

<p>As far as offering advantages to URM's, isn't that a decision made by the colleges themselves? However, is there any doubt that every student of Brazilian ancestry WILL be counted as a minority in the statistics published by the schools?</p>

<p>I was previously married to a Brazilian (Brasilian?--their spelling) whose sister went to college at UCLA--and I can tell you for an absolute fact that they also considered Brazilians as URMs at that time. Now, after the passage of proposition 209 it's a mute point, but I have to wonder, like xiggi, where lollabelle is getting this information on college application ethnic groupings.</p>

<p>Here is the National Hispanic Recognition Program definition:</p>

<p>To qualify for this program, the student must be at least one-quarter Hispanic, according to the following definition: A person of Mexican-American, Puerto Rican, Cuban, Central or South American, or other Spanish cultures or origins. For purposes of this program, this does not include persons from Brazil or Portuguese culture/origin, or persons from the Philippines. Hispanic is an ethnic category not a racial category and Hispanics may be of any race.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.collegeboard.com/student/testing/psat/about/scholarships.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.collegeboard.com/student/testing/psat/about/scholarships.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>This is of course just one definition for a specific program, however it is the main program for college bound students. I agree that the Common App lumps everyone together and asks for country of origin, and that it will depend on the school and what they are looking for as far as the amount of bump the OP will get. For the schools listed though, I think it will be fairly low.</p>