Chance me please!

Pre-Med & Medical School Multiple Degree Programs
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<p>Rising Senior
GPA: 99/100 (UW: 97/100).
SAT : 2210/2400 or 1520/1600<br>
Breakdown: 800 CR, 720 Math, 690 Writing
Retaking in October to try and get it higher</p>

<p>SAT II: US – 790, Chem – 770, Math II – 760
School doesn’t rank</p>

<p>Courseload: Most rigorous available (except for not taking AP Spanish). Took some science research courses as well.</p>

<p>Took 4 AP’s (US, Chem, English Lang, Euro) – all 5’s.
Taking 6 more AP’s next year (Phys, Bio, Gov, Eco, Eng Lit, Math BC)</p>

<p>EC’s/Awards:
Will have volunteered at local hospital for 2 summers
Siemens Semifinalist
Internship this summer with medical professor </p>

<p>Other smaller things, such as various clubs, honor societies, school awards, National Merit, some essay competitions. But mentioned most notable. </p>

<p>Applying to mainly programs near me (NY). Chances for</p>

<p>Downstate/Brooklyn
Sophie Davis (depends on ACT score – will take in Sept)
Stony Brook
PLME
BU
Penn State or Drexel
University of Medicine of New Jersey
Should I apply to any other ones in NE/Mid-Atlantic area with my stats?</p>

<p>How negatively will not shadowing affect me?
Do the admission people actually count the number of hours you volunteer? Or is it sufficient if I can talk about my volunteer experiences in the essays/ interviews?</p>

<p>Thanks.</p>

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<p>It’s really hard to predict entrances for BS/MDs even more than it is for ivy leagues, because so much of the selection process at these programs depends on the interview.
That said, in my opinion I believe that you have a good shot at all of the schools that you have selected. I think that you will get interviews at many of the schools that you have chosen. BU and PLME are the top programs imo, that you have chosen. Be prepared to talk about your research at the BU interview if you get chosen. I was quizzed for like an hour and a half on my research cuz my interviewer was a molecular biology professor. However, PLME might be a longshot. From what I’ve seen, PLME wants students who are heavily interested in something outside of the sciences in addition to medicine. Either way, because PLME does not have interviews, your essays need to be spectacular. The kids on this board that got into PLME all had one thing in common: they all thought their essays were amazing. </p>

<p>You still have a lot of time, so I would suggest getting SOME sort of shadowing experience before you submit applications, or at least before interviews. Aside from applications, it is really valuable seeing what a doctor does on a day-to-day basis. And you will not believe how many interesting things you can learn from just one day shadowing, especially if youre willing to put in some time on wikipedia later :D.</p>

<p>The more volunteer hours that you have, the better I suppose. But i wouldn’t worry about it, unless you only have like 30 hours or something. 2 summers should be plenty. Most of these interviewers won’t dwell on your volunteering at hospitals, because its mostly tedious chart-making, bed-making, etc. anyway. </p>

<p>Aside from these schools, I would highly recommend applying to REMS, which is University of Rochester’s 8 yr BS/MD. The undergraduate is very solid academically, and has an amazing campus and features in general. The med schol is also very good and is one of the best med schools that has a BS/MD along with Rice, Nwestern, Brown, Case, and Pitt. It was also the first med school to start the biopsychosocial model which focuses on a holistic treatment for disease, which is now used by numerous med schools across the country. Of course, I may be a little biased since I’ll be going there in the fall haha.</p>

<p>University of Pittsburgh’s med program is also something to consider. Though the undergraduate isn’t the best, it is still very respectable. UPMC is second only to Rice/Baylor in schools that offer a BS/MD.</p>

<p>Hope this info helped
Good Luck!</p>

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<p>Thank you for your advice, it was very helpful. I will start shadowing some doctors, hopefully I can get some hours in.</p>

<p>I was worried about volunteering hours because on other threads, I see people listing 500+ hours or something similar. By the end of the summer I should have most likely 200 hours total of volunteering (since the internship I am in is non-paid).</p>

<p>Will raising my SAT to a 2300 make any significant change to my chance of acceptance?
Also, in regards to AP credit, is it wise to use AP credit to place out of certain classes? I heard that this sometimes causes one’s GPA to go down because they are then forced to take higher level classes.</p>

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<p>Don’t worry, 200 hours is plenty. I had just about that much and didn’t feel that I was at a disadvantage.</p>

<p>I honestly couldn’t tell you how much a 2300 would help you. I was really lucky and ended up getting a really high score (2370) but it didn’t seem to make a super huge difference in much. I thinking HPME is more focused on SAT scores cuz their average for the program, which they actually have on their website, is around 2280 or so. </p>

<p>And in regards to AP credit, I’ll let you know in a year how it turns out haha. Take as many classes as you can now, and worry about taking the credit later. Besides, if you are in a BS/MD, the benefit is that you don’t have to worry about gpa as much and you can take the more difficult and interesting classes without as much stress.</p>

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<p>If anyone cares:</p>

<p>Penn State - Rejected
SBU - Rejected
Drexel/Drexel - Rejected
Lehigh/Drexel - Rejected
Brooklyn College - Waitlisted</p>

<p>To be honest, I was surprised that I didn’t get into any. But I will be attending Columbia so I am happy.</p>

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<p>congratz! wishing the best!</p>

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<p>To be honest, I am extremely surprised as well. How do you get into Columbia but not Penn State, Drexel, Lehigh…</p>

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<p>@dagol12 You got into columbia as in columbia university?</p>

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<p>I assumed that dagol meant that he was applying to those other schools BS/MD and applied to Columbia BS only.</p>

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<p>Congrats!
If you really wanted to get to bs/md though, should have applied to good number less known programs at state schools. My D. has focused on these. She has chosen not to apply to well known programs except for 1 (reject, no surprize). She was accepted t0 3 out of 6 that she applied. She is very happy to be in bs/md since it makes her feel more secure.<br>
Good luck and I am sure you will do just fine.</p>

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<p>MiamiDap, can you share which school your daughter applied to and where she got accepted, little bit of her stats. </p>

<p>Also, is there a reserved quota for some state kids in their BS/MD programs. I have heard that it is very difficult for a CA student to get into lets say NJ BS/MD program, but very easy for NJ student.</p>

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<p>Yes there is quota in all state schools. Do not waste your money in applying to state schools other than your own state. Instead apply to private schools to increase your chances.
For Dagol12 : Just Curious, after you retook your SAT in october 2009, did your scores improve more than what you had listed ? What was your final super score ? I am surprised that you got rejected from those programs. Glad that you got into Columbia.</p>

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<p>crazydude,
Research schools in your state. D. was lucky that our state has more bs/md programs than most others. She was accepted to NEOUCOM, U of Cinci Dual Admis. Program and U of Toledo bs/md. She graduated #1 from small private very well known for its rigorous academics HS. ACT = 33. Rejected from PPSP (Case), MSU bs/md, one of UG in Cinci program (it used to be 5 UG colleges, now it is only U of Cinci), with acceptance to the same program at another UG.<br>
I disagree that private schools gives you more chances. If you really want bs/md route, I would like to let you know that, yes some in-state school have very few spots for OOS, but others treat everybody the same. We have met people from very far states in all information sessions. Private schools bs/md programs by far are much much more competitive. The best bet at these is to have personal connections, insider’s letter of Rec. might do the trick. Stats alone might not carry you at all.</p>

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<p>I can’t believe you were rejected at SBU, I was going to apply but I don’t think I will anymore since my grades are really low in comparison to yours. And congrats for making it at Columbia!!!</p>

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<p>Sorry for late responses, haven’t checked these forums in months.</p>

<p>@nondairycreamer, Yes, I mean Columbia University. </p>

<p>@itmom, The first time I took it I received: 800 CR, 720 Math, 690 Writing. The second time I took it I received: 740 CR 770 Math, 690 Writing</p>

<p>So my final super score was, 800 CR, 770 Math, 690 Writing. I’m not sure if the med programs I apply to look/looked at super score though.</p>

<p>@cammms, Certainly I don’t want to discourage you from applying. These programs look for certain things that may or may not be reflected by ones grades. Apply to programs besides SBU though, since SBU only takes 5 students and is one of the harder ones.</p>