Chance me pleaseeeeee

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<p>Hi, I am pretty passionate about music(cello), dance(breakdancing), sports (soccer and track) and studying... I just like doing everything that's fun.. Enjoy meeting new people..parents didn't go to college so I really want to...CHANCE ME FOR THESE COLLEGES if you have time THANKS! </p>

<p>Ethnicity: Asian/Korean
Male
High School: Small private school 140 in my class? top 10% for sure
Bilingual in Korean and English around the same level, working on French (5th year!)</p>

<p>AP/Honors Classes- AP World History, AP Biology, AP Chemistry, AP English 11, AP Calculus 1, Honor's French 4
Going to take this fall (Senior Year)-AP Calculus 2, College Credited French 5, College Credited Anatomy and Physiology, AP English 12, AP Economy...
So graduating with 8 APs and 2 college courses.</p>

<p>GPA Unweighted= 3.96
SAT- R=600 W=690 M=790 (should I take it again?) = 2080
SAT 2- Chemistry=650, Math 2=800
ACT-28 (took it just for fun, but taking it next Saturday, probably 31-33?</p>

<p>Extracurriculars...
-Elementary School Teacher Assistant= 120+ hrs (9,10,11...)
-Church (5000 in congregation) Orchestra Principle Cellist= 200+ hrs (11)
-Hospital Volunteering in patient discharge, rooms, and gift shops = 300+ (9,10,11)
-Minnesota State High School Mathematics League= Top Score Certificate (11)
-Break-dancing=5 years, (shows, events, and competitively in competitions with crews)
-National Honors Society (12, probably will get in)
-Science Olympiad (10,11)
-French Club (9,10,11,12 maybe president next year?)
-Machphail Music School Chamber Orchestra/Group/Buddy Program(help work with younger musicians (for 10 years, a lot of hours)
-Academic Honors Award (9,10,11 lettered Academically))
-National Merit Achievement (Commended at Least for PSAT, will be notified in the fall if I moved further into the National Merit Scholarship)
-Orchestra Board (Plan, lead, and organize parties and musicians)
-Tri-Metro Orchestra Participent (9,10,11)
-State Solo and Ensemble Contest Superior Ratings (Solos 9,10,11(best in site this year))
-All-State Orchestra (12 WOOO!)
-Lettered in Orchestra (9,10,11)
-Soccer (9,10,11)(best offense and MVP)
-Track and Field (10,11)(Lettered 10,11)(Sections individually 10, 11)
-Bunch of small music awards and academic recognition awards
-Working this summer tutoring or volunteering kids in English Classes
-Probably Good Recommendations and Essays for next year</p>

<p>Chance me for...
Boston College
Boston University
Brown University
Columbia University
Cornell University
Dartmouth College
Emory University
George Washington University
Georgetown University
John Hopkins University
Madison University
New York University
Northwestern University
Princeton University
Stanford University
Berkeley
UCLA
University of Chicago
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
Notre Dame
University of Pennsylvania
USC
Vanderbilt
University of Virgina
Yale</p>

<p>Any recommendations will be very much appreciated
-Any Liberal Arts Schools?
-SAT/ACT scores?
-Any certain colleges?
-Engineering?/Business?/Med? What would be good for me?</p>

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<p>You have impressive EC’s and your GPA is in line but IMHO I think that you need to work on getting your SAT scores up closer to the 2250-2350 range for most of the schools on your list. The admissions climate has become very, very competitive and I don’t think next year is going to be any better…unfortunately. I am assuming that you will be first in your family to go to college…? That is somewhat of an advantage at some of the top selective schools.</p>

<p>Good luck!</p>

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<p>your SAT score is low, and because you are Korean, you are at a disadvantage thanks to affirmative action. bring it up to 2250+, preferably 2300+. try taking one or two more subject tests and try to break 700. looks like you have solid ecs, just work on a good essay and bring those stats up. good luck.</p>

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<p>thank you guys so much…so basically just get the SAT/ACT scores up like crazy and i’m in the ball park right? do you think i need to do other extracurriculars? or if i need more leadership of some sort? because I’ve been seeing other peoples stuff and they’re all like presidents of diversity clubs and all these jazz with research experiences at colleges…</p>

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<p>you might want to find something meaningful to do this summer.
if you get your SAT and the Subject tests up to 2300/700+</p>

<p>Boston College: Low Match
Boston University: Low Match
Brown University: Match
Columbia University: Low Reach
Cornell University:Low Match
Dartmouth College: Match
Emory University: Match
George Washington University: Low match
Georgetown University: Match
John Hopkins University:match
Madison University:low match
New York University: Low match
Northwestern University: Match
Princeton University: High reach
Stanford University: High Reach
Berkeley: Low match
UCLA: low match
University of Chicago: Match
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor: match
Notre Dame: match
University of Pennsylvania: Low reach
USC: low match
Vanderbilt: low match
University of Virgina: low match
Yale: high reach</p>

<p>p.s. dont apply to all these schools. its a waste of your money. and this is if you get your scores up. if you dont, its a different story</p>

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<p>stl2, I dont know whether youre kidding or are just being mean, but no. You’re wrong. An Ivy is never “a match” even for star students. Brown had an 8% admit rate. It’s a reach. A low reach? Maybe. But a reach. </p>

<p>@OP: You’ll get into a lot of top tier schools. Ivies, Northwestern, Rice, Duke, WUSTL, the like. But don’t expect to get into all/a lot of them. They’re crapshoots.</p>

<p>And I second the opinion, don’t apply to all of those schools. Pick the 7-10 you love the most.</p>

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<p>synny, i am not joking. yes, it is possible to be a match, especially for star students. the numbers dont necessarily mean that it is impossible to get into the school. for example, this year, there was a greater turnout for the application process; this means more people who had no shot of getting in brown lowered the percentage (no offense to them). perhaps you have heard of the term “legacy?” or of schools such as phillips exeter, andover, st. pauls, stuyvesant, etc? they are known as “ivy feeders.” why? because they send around 6 students(or more for the boarding schools) to each respective ivy league institutions. you were partially correct when you said you are “never a match” for ivy leagues. that is for the top tier schools HYP. for the lower tiers, such as brown and cornell, it is safe to assume that if you are top 10% in your class at a good high school or the valedictorian of a mediocre high school with 2300+on the SAT, good ecs, National AP scholar, etc, you are pretty much in cornell and brown.</p>

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<p>stl2…we just went through all of this with our S ranked #3 at a good private school, top 5%, GPA over 4.0, scores 2350/34, tons of EC’s, Italy exchange for a year etc, etc, etc. Only got into one Ivy, waitlisted at another and ultimately turned down. #1 & #2 in his class only did a little better. Ivy’s are a reach for everyone and it def IS a crapshoot depending on the regional reader and the strength of the applicant pool…which was very high this year. </p>

<p>Don’t mean to discourage you isaac but you need to go into the process with your eyes open. Put time into coming up with “likelys” where you could see yourself being happy at and shoot for the moon with the top schools that “feel right” for you. I would caution you to not fall too in love with any of them though. I agree with stl that you REALLY need to bring your test scores up to be considered at most of the schools on your list.</p>

<p>Wishing you the best of luck!</p>

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<p>thanks guys! so what kind of meaningful things do you recommend I do this summer? and IF i dont get to take the SAT again do i have a chance at some of the schools with 2080? Because I am going to be turning in my applications in october but the next testing day i can take is october something…so i am not sure what to do…in a pickle right now…</p>

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<p>chilaxin: I am sorry about your S. perhaps he is an exception, im sure, with many others. but there is no doubt that it is easier to get into the lower-tier ivies than the top tier/midtier ones. </p>

<p>isaac: why would you turn in your applications in october? at the current state, you’ll only most likely have a shot at BU and Madison. sorry, but im just keeping it real with you. wait until you see if youve improved on your SAT score</p>

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<p>thanks thanks so it’s the SAT score… :stuck_out_tongue: ill work on it for sure</p>

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<p>isaac…you certainly do not need to send in any applications before Nov. 1st (EA, ED, SCEA) and the October SAT scores would be in before they actually begin to look at the applications. Since, in most cases, you cannot apply early to more than one school, you can also plan to take the later SAT test as these scores would be available for the regular decision applications. My S brought his CR up almost 100 points between junior winter and senior Fall; it is doable and worth working towards.</p>

<p>Probably the most meaningful thing that you can do this summer is put energy into your most passionate EC and set aside time in August to focus on your Common App essay. It will be online on or around August 1st. If you can get it mostly done before school begins in September, you will have an easier time managing the college process and your demanding senior year course load. We learned this the hard way. ;)</p>

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<p>stl…S is enrolled at Dartmouth and very excited about it now but the sting of Black Wed. took quite a while to dissipate. I have talked to quite a few parents from many different schools and this years results were surprising and for many, disappointing.</p>

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<p>DO you know anything about questbridge? I wanna do that and i heard the deadlines for the applications are due the beginning of october or something. If it isn’t I will be so glad. and Increasing the CR section of the SAT is REALLY hard for some reason…i just cant seem to get the high 600’s or into the 700’s…i’m trying to read a lot and memorize vocabs…but its hard…but i will keep on trying! thanks for the advices</p>

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<p>Quest bridge application is due on 9/30, I think. Check the Questbridge thread in the financial aide section of CC. There will be plenty of folks there to answer your questions.</p>

<p>There are good study guides for SAT prep; time consuming but worthwhile.</p>

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<p>Isaac, your splits as of now are: R=600 W=690 M=790.</p>

<p>this means you have math down, no problem. i believe writing is the easiest section to bring up. review your old practice tests, order QAS, etc. look what you did wrong. there are patterns for all of the sections. writing is the most obvious. memorize the grammar rules and the wrong answers will be blatant to you. as for critical reading, it takes more time. i suggest that you also look back at older tests, read through the passages, and try to get the main idea of each paragraph. that method is a good way to start off being a more “critical” reader and thinker. memorize more vocab words. you can find a list of common SAT words somewhere on google. and finally, as for math, just dont let your score come down drastically, or your hard work improving your score will be negated. </p>

<p>start with the collegeboard blue book, and dont bother wasting time and money on barrons and princeton review. good luck.</p>

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<p>I really don’t think the SAT is going to kill you. You have amazing stats and shouldn’t worry.</p>

<p>Sent from my iPhone using CC</p>

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<p>yeah and when you apply to quest bridge you apply to the colleges at the same time and i dont know what to do because I can’t take the SAT beforehand anytime because the first one is middle of October… </p>

<p>Yup doing SAT prep for sure thanks.</p>

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<p>thanks StL and Hatshep for your encouragements and advices! I’ll definitely be doing SAT prep with the books more.</p>

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<p>isaac1112 - hey, korean male dartmouth '15 here. feel free to ask me any questions via messages. </p>

<p>i definitely agree with previous posters who’ve advised you to retake your sat 1 test, and to take more subject tests. try to aim for minimum 2200 for sat1 and 720 for sat 2’s. not that scores will make/break your admissions, but it certainly doesn’t hurt to have high scores on these tests nonetheless. i would also advise you to pick 2/3 activities from your myriad of ec activities and highlight how they’ve impacted who you are today. </p>

<p>if i had to say one last thing in terms of the college process in general… i think, at the bottomline, the most important thing that schools look for is character personality. it may seem like it’d be hard to tell from paper docs, but the adcoms are smart people there. i would even go on to say many have highly developed interpersonal intelligence too. so make sure you set about a way / standard / strategy / etc to present who you are to them. </p>

<p>oh, and one more thing. i disagree with dartmouth being a “match” school. not to delegitimize your exceptional achievements or anything, but i don’t think a school with a 9.7% admissions rate can be considered a match school. also, it’s not like they picked 9.7% out of a mediocre applicant pool… it’s 9.7% from an applicant pool filled with students who are already at the top of their respective schools. i’m saying this, because prior to this process, i held similar views with stl2cali2k1 about star students being able to categorize lower-tier ivies as matches. but, after going through this process and hearing stories from my peers, there is simply too much contingency involving your decision that it really is truly hard for anyone to safely assume a school, one that is as especially selective as dartmouth’s, as a safety or even a match school. so with that said, take this to your head to use it as a greater motivation to work harder on your apps and your tests :)</p>

<p>also, regarding questbridge… i was a questbridge finalist so if you have any questions shoot me a pm or something. best of luck!</p>