CHANCE ME: UPenn and Cornell

@NotVerySmart On NYU Stern’s site, it says they have an acceptance rate of 15%. They may only have 600 spots but some people they accept opt not to come to NYU stern. This makes sense because 43% of the people accepted enrolled. Just out of curiosity, where did you get the 5% from? I could be wrong but I am pulling these facts off of their website. Thanks again for your advice, it has been extremely helpful. Also, thanks for clearing up my UVA and Michigan question.

Are you concerned with acceptance, or are you considering utilizing “perceived selectivity” as a means to choose a college?

I actually got the numbers from the Stern website as well.

http://www.stern.nyu.edu/programs-admissions/undergraduate/stern-advantage/profile

Program applications: 10,987 for ~600 spots. That’s something different from the acceptance rate they give, which is odd.

Either way, a very selective program. But I would echo ClarinetDad’s point.

@Accepted100
Historically, students at Cornell’s CAS and COE stats are higher than other schools. Their stats are nearly comparable to HYPMS stats. Here’s an old stat that I found:

http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000176.pdf

Note that this was 2011. Stats of current students now are higher. Also admitted students’ stats are higher than enrollees.

@2018dad That spreadsheet was very helpful! I saw that my score is actually in the 75th percentile for the CAS. I know this is in 2011 but I still take that as good news since that is probably average today if not slightly above average.

@ClarinetDad16 Haha I’m not sure. Could you explain each?

@Accepted100

I think today, Cornell’s overall 25-75th percentile is 30-34. So CAS is higher than that.

I would guess that 35 is 75th percentile for CAS. 33 is probably average for enrollees today. Slightly below average for admitted students.

No matter, your score and GPA is fine. You are qualified. If youre are rejected, it will not be because of your ACT score. Good luck!

@NotVerySmart you have to take into account the yield rate of 43%. So if you assume that 43% of the students accepted to Stern out of the 10987 applicants will matriculate to Stern if accepted then that means Stern should accept

600/(.43) = 1395 students for those 600 spots. 1395 / 10987 = 12.7% acceptance rate. So out of the 1395 people they acceptance, on average 600 will accept.

So yes Stern is incredibly selective and the 12.7% is much lower than what it was less than 5 years ago (19%) so it definitely seems to be trending down a lot faster than other schools.

I would say that Pitt is pretty much a safety, not a match.

you have as good a shot as anybody else. I don’t know what people were saying about 33 being a low ACT. It’s more than fine for any school. Wharton and Cornell are reaches for everybody, but you have a shot.

Please chance me back:

http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/1819140-please-chance-me-will-chance-back.html#latest

I would strongly advise you apply to AEM over CAS at Cornell if you’re really interested in business. Even though AEM is ultra selective, getting into the program would be a lot better for what you want to study, and switching into AEM from CAS can be very difficult. The Dyson school says a reasonable GPA to almost guarantee transfer in from another Cornell school is a 3.3, which is a B+. This may seem like an easy feat, but as a freshman at Cornell, I can say with certainty that most intro level classes are difficult and are curved to B-/B (2.7/3.0). If you get into AEM and decide it’s not for you, going into CAS is a much easier process. All in all, don’t let an acceptance rate scare you from doing what you want to do.

@IndoorCloud25 I actually spoke with an admission officer about that exact topic. Apparently you can transfer (with good standing which is less than 3.3) after your freshman year. I’d much rather get into CAS which has a 14% acceptance rate and AEM has a 7-8% acceptance rate. Cornell is obviously a reach so I’d rather get into CAS than get rejected from AEM.

They say a minimum of 2.75 is needed to apply, but >3.3 is a more reasonable expectation to get in as per Dyson’s website. Technically good standing means not failing and meeting the credit minimum. Either route is tough, but internal transfer can be tougher because on top of your outstanding HS work, you need to perform extremely well at Cornell, which is not easy trust me. Plus adcoms can tell when someone is trying to exploit back door admission into tough programs by getting in the easy way first. To put it another way, would you rather cash in on your amazing achievements now, or have to work even more on top of what you’ve done to get where you want to be?