Chance me!

Colleges and Universities A-Z Yale University
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<p>Hi. I'm an international student. Can you please chance me?
SAT-2200+ expected(November test)</p>

<p>ACADEMICS
Rank: 2/330</p>

<p>CO-CURRICULAR AND EXTRA-CURRICULAR ACTIVITIES
Standard 9
1. Lead role in school play
2. Bastille Day celebrations – singer and helped in organizing
3. Participant in dance at standard 10 farewell celebrations
4. Art classes
Standard 10
1. Art classes
2. Authored a YA novel (which has been published by a MAJOR national publisher)
3. 1 Day Programme at Research Institution
Standard 11
1. Class Representative to the Student Council
2. Started writing second novel
3. Editing of first novel
4. Art classes
5. French course
Standard 12
1. Writer for school literary magazine
2. Class Representative to the Student Council
3 New novel
4. Art classes
5. Literary Arts Contingent Assitant for Inter-school competition
7. Writer for Student Council Magazine</p>

<p>MAJOR AWARDS
Standard 9
1. Winner of national Scholarship
2. Award for Best Essay in English
3. Merit ceritificate in Science Quiz
4. Certificate for Academic Excellence
Standard 10
1. Certificate Academic Excellence
2. Trophy for Student Displaying the most outstanding Moral Values and Citizenship
3. Highest marks in History in the board exam
4. Highest Marks in Social Sciences in the board exam
5. Highest Marks in Science in the board exam
6. State-level Grade Drawing Examination – ‘A’ Grade
Standard 11
1. Australian Chemistry Quiz
2. Student from a particular sect with the highest average </p>

<p>VOLUNTEER & COMMUNITY SERVICE
NGO teaching underpriviliged children
1. Work on reading and communication skills with children
2. Help with homework problems</p>

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<p>At schools such as Harvard, Yale, Princeton etc, it’s impossible to predict anyone’s chances as so much of the applications process is subjective and comes down to how an admissions director “feels” after reading your teacher recommendations and essays and compares them to all other applicants. You need to just send your applications out into the universe and hope for the best. See: [Guidance</a> Office: Answers From Harvard’s Dean, Part 1 - NYTimes.com](<a href=“http://thechoice.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/10/harvarddean-part1/]Guidance”>Guidance Office: Answers From Harvard's Dean, Part 1 - The New York Times)</p>

<p>"Many people believe “best” ought to be defined by standardized tests, grades, and class rank, and it is easy to understand why. Such a system, another Harvard dean of admissions, Bill Bender, wrote in 1960, “has great appeal because it has the merits of apparent simplicity, objectivity, relative administrative cheapness in time and money and worry, a clear logical basis and therefore easy applicability and defensibility.”</p>

<p>While we value objective criteria, we apply a more expansive view of excellence. Test scores and grades offer some indication of students’ academic promise and achievement. But we also scrutinize applications for extracurricular distinction and personal qualities.</p>

<p>Students’ intellectual imagination, strength of character, and their ability to exercise good judgment — these are critical factors in the admissions process, and they are revealed not by test scores but by students’ activities outside the classroom, the testimony of teachers and guidance counselors, and by alumni/ae and staff interview reports."</p>

<p>“Personal qualities and character provide the foundation upon which each admission rests. Harvard alumni/ae often report that the education they received from fellow classmates was a critically important component of their college experience. The education that takes place between roommates, in dining halls, classrooms, research groups, extracurricular activities, and in Harvard’s residential houses depends on selecting students who will reach out to others.”</p>

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<p>Thanks.
Can anybody else please chance me?</p>

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<p>False. But we’ve gone over this.</p>

<p>But seriously, since you’re an international student, I have no idea. There aren’t many seats available for international students at Yale so you’ll have to be one of the strongest applicants in the entire world.</p>

<p>I don’t know just how strong the international applicant pool is, so I can’t help except by generically stating that your chances are low.</p>

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<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/yale-university/1253634-official-yale-class-2016-scea-results-thread.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/yale-university/1253634-official-yale-class-2016-scea-results-thread.html&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/yale-university/1304717-official-yale-class-2016-rd-results-thread.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/yale-university/1304717-official-yale-class-2016-rd-results-thread.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Look through the above threads. Students who were rejected last year often have similar stats to those students that were accepted. If you, or I, or Philovitist, had looked at these lists prior to acceptances coming out, none of us could have guessed correctly who was going to receive the fat envelopes.</p>

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<p>Red herring…That’s not the same as predicting each person’s chances, gibby.</p>

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<p>Not so. In the 2016 SCEA link, look at each person who was deferred on the first two pages. Every one of them looks like s/he should have been a slam-dunk. Tell me what you think their chances were. What percentage? I haven’t gone back to the RD thread to see if they were ultimately accepted, but I think you get my drift. It’s just too unpredictable and cannot be chanced.</p>

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<p>I think we can do a pretty good job of identifying people who have little or no chances, but it’s really hard to quantify the chances of people who have some chance. Looking at the OP, for example, we see what appear to be good grades and an expected SAT score that is good, but not stellar for Yale. The thing that stands out otherwise is having published a novel. If this was commercially published (i.e., not self-published or published by a vanity press), that’s pretty impressive. But it’s always hard to evaluate an international applicant. I certainly wouldn’t discourage the OP from applying to Yale.</p>

<p>The OP seems to be an Australian. My answer might be a bit different if the OP is an Australian aborigine.</p>

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<p>No they don’t. :/</p>

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<p>Not extremely. You just have to remember that the average person’s chances are extremely low. Good chances are better than extremely low; bad chances are basically 0. This person has a bad chance.</p>

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<p>I agree and concur with Hunt, who is far more knowledgable and experienced than me who said:</p>

<p>“I think we can do a pretty good job of identifying people who have little or no chances, but it’s really hard to quantify the chances of people who have some chance.”</p>

<p>And – we’ve been over this before – but saying someone has a “good chance” is meaningless if five thousand, ten thousand, even fifteen thousand applicants also have a “good chance.”</p>

<p>I think we will have to agree to disagree.</p>

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<p>then there’s really good and extremely good and then 50/50 and then</p>

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<p>I think you can get a decent answer to the question, “Should I bother applying?” But I don’t think you can get a good answer to “Will I get in?”–unless the answer is probably not.</p>

<p>I will say that there are some applicants who, if they are telling the truth about their qualifications and aren’t leaving out anything bad, are highly likely to get into one or more very selective colleges. But it’s much harder to say that even those people are highly likely to get into any one selective college (especially the most selective ones).</p>