Hello, I am a junior who is a resident of NC.
I was just curious if the chance of acceptance would increase when I apply to a school in NC.
For instance, I heard that if resident of CA apply to UC schools, then the chance of acceptance would increase.
So does this apply identically to NC, too?
I am planning to apply to UNC Chapel Hill and Duke University.
Thank you!
UNC and NCS – absolutely. They’re state funded colleges and highly favor NC residents WAY over the OOS – who get little fin aid and have to have much higher stats.
Nothing for Duke however – it’s private.
The issue is not really whether chances “increase.” Public universities very often favor in-state applicants, including because, like in California, they may be legally required to. That does not mean your chances “increase” by applying, for example, to UNC. It simply means as an in-state residernt your chances can be somewhat better than out-of-state-applicants, who typically need higher stats than the average in-state applicant to be admitted. But in-state residents typically make up 80% to 90% of those who apply to the public universites in a state and you have no “increased” chance over any of those, and if you are below the usual ranges of those admitted, your chances are not good.
As to private universities, like Duke, it means nothing at all because they have no mandate or self-created rule to favor in-state residents.
@T26E4 got it. So, vice versa, if I apply to UC schools then I would have way lower chances because I am not a resident of CA and UC schools are all state funded colleges. Also, if the school is private, the chances does not waver by one’s residence. Right…?
Whether you can call it “way lower” if applying to the UC’s is a matter of opinion but you will usually need better stats than the typical in-state resident who is admitted, and private universities typically weigh in-state and out-of-state on the same plain.
@drusba got it. Not much difference. Another question… I am curious if there is a significant difference of chance between US citizen and US permanent residence, or between (US CITIZEN AND US PERMANANT RESIDENCE) and (international students)
No difference between Citizen and Permanent Resident. International students have it harder.
North Carolina is special in that it is among the few universities with a strict cap on OOS students - the reasoning is that, since it’s a state-funded universities and these funds come from residents’ dollars, their children should have most of the seats in any of the public system’s 17 campuses - not just a majority, but over 80% of those seats, regardless of how many OOS applicants apply or what their qualifications are. So the “competition” is very hard for these 18% spots.
California’s different: only UCB and UCLA have caps on OOS/international applicants. In both states, OOS applicants need to have significantly better stats than instate applicants, and in most cases, they must also be ready to pay full costs.
US citizens and permanent residents are treated the same. For public universities, however, being out of state can mean a disadvantage and that includes out-of-state US citizens and permamnet residents.
Internationals are defimitely a different group but what effect that has varies amoung colleges. For public universities, they are like out-of-state US residents, often needing higher stats than in-state residents. Moreover, unlike US Citizens and permanent residents, internationals cannot qualify for federally backed loans and grants based on need, with the result that many colleges, both public and private, will not allow them to attend absent being able to provide proof that the applicant and the applicant’s parents can afford to pay all costs. There are a number of universities that will provide need-based aid to interantionals out of their own funds but often that means that any internationals requiring need-based loans or grants will need to have higher stats than normal to be accepted. Also, even for internationals who can afford all the costs there can be disadvantages because universities may evaluate them for admission by comparing them to other internationals that have applied and that group as a whole is often your higher ranked students from their high schools.
On the other hand, internationsals that can pay all costs may actually find it a little easier than most to be admitted to many colleges that are generally outside your high ranks simply because of their ability to pay full price and thus provide the university with some needed funding.
@MYOS1634 So not all the states apply… but NC does… thanks!
@drusba thank you. So international students are almost “required” to pay all the bills…