<p>Once again, no one is claiming you can’t get in; we’re talking in hypotheticals. I stress the importance of the essays and the interview not because I think its some sort of weakness for you, but only because you seem to believe that good scores automatically guarantees admission. I don’t know what kind of writer you are; however, I saw one post of yours in another thread where you used “to” when you needed “too.” Just sayin’</p>
<p>honestly, these forums are all pretty out there. I doubt any of us are actually on adcoms, to begin with. I’ll be honest- I had a 3.6 gpa with 2210 SAT when I applied to these programs. I applied to 5 and got into two- BU and Uconn. Fine, its not Brown- and don’t get me wrong, any program that you get into is pretty amazing. For me, that was how I thought about it. For what CC’er said, i’m not “asian” in the street sense, but I felt like that was way over the limit.</p>
<p>and yeah, cc’er, as most of us have already said, numbers do not gurantee admission. They help a lot, they may even save your application if your essays suck. What we’re saying is that now that you have established pretty good stats, focus on the more subjective aspects of the application, like your EC’s and your essays. If I had a chance, you have a chance.</p>
<p>Again, chance forums are for people who are insecure about themselves and their application. Most people who go on chance threads have excellent scores and seem like the perfect applicant already. This is why there are guidance counselors at school- professionals who guide students for a living. Talk to them if you’re really worried. Someone said something great earlier- make the best application you can for yourself and roll with the punches. Thats all I can say.</p>
<p>I already wrote 3 application essays. Plan to send out my apps as soon as transcripts become available. I have the Common APP already. </p>
<p>I will have professional writers advice me on my essays. </p>
<p>For the interview, ill be fine; they are not make or break. Ill be interesting. I do basketball and swimming when im asian so… yeah. I got 4 alumni and an alumni tenured professor- some kind of director at NYU- pulling for me. Ill email all of them on the same day to maximize the effect on the adcom. 5 phone calls simultaneously by influential alumni are bound to attract some attention to my application. :D</p>
<p>mainly concerned about my GPA- dont know my exact rank the private prep school i go to does not rank. It is very competitive and extremely elite (i think?!! hard to find private HS rankings). It is among the top 100 feeders to HYP. The Korean HS are REALLY dominating on the charts.</p>
<p>On the other hand,If i get into the BS/MD ill probably choose Caltech or Penn or Duke. if i get into BS/MD (hopefully) i should be able to get into HYPSM because the HPME is like 3-4%.</p>
<p>Interviews for just undergrad aren’t make or break, you’re right. HOWEVER, take it from the people who have already gone through the application process; BA/MD program interviews are make it or break it. The process is staggered. They get all their applicants (around 700 for most) and then invite around 60-100 for interviews. From the 60-100, they accept like 30-40 based on the interview. So if you have a good interview you have a good shot (around 50%). It would benefit you to take the advice of the ones trying to help you; acting like a ****** and patting yourself on the back only exposes your insecurities about your status as an applicant. </p>
<p>You will need professional writers to give you advice; since you apparently don’t know the difference between a verb and a noun. </p>
<p>One receives advice.
One advises another.</p>
<p>I’m trying to advise you, as an enrolled Brown PLME and an accepted student for BU’s program, that after a certain point GPA and stats don’t matter (you’re at that point so don’t worry). Just be confident in the reason why you want to be a doctor (this might be hard for you since you’re driven by money). </p>
<p>You will get attention from the adcoms; you will get the reputation of a brown-noser and an arrogant, self-aggrandizing (don’t believe me? you called your hs “extremely elite” racist (even against yourself, why should it be special that an asian does sports?, a valid argument is that you maintain a superb gpa while engaging in numerous ecs ranging from research to volunteering to sports). </p>
<p>How can you say which schools you will choose without having even applied or been accepted yet? Also, why would you go to Caltech for premed? </p>
<p>Again, stop trying to predict college acceptances. HYPSM are random, as are BA/MD programs. Some of those might reject you just because they assume you will apply to BA/MD programs and don’t expect you to turn down the guaranteed medical school admission. I’m not going to rationalize getting rejected from Harvard with that, because I understand that admissions are random and it all depends on the entire applicant pool. </p>
<p>I’ll repeat my mantra again since I got some props for it:</p>
<p>just submit the best application you can and roll with the punches.</p>
<p>again, like i said before, there are connections and strings to be called/pulled incase my credentials doesnt pull me through into the top ten schools. How would i brown-nose if i dont plan on complimenting their institution like a sycophant? </p>
<p>Ugghh, I made a deal with my dad; if i get over 2300 (already fulfilled my bargain), he promised to make Columbia my fail-safe school. he will call in some VERY influential people there. Premed (or business if i drop out of premed- very likely due to cut pay for specialists) is good at Columbia.</p>
<p>Ill still hope for HPME though, with a rank number 8 university as a fail-safe.</p>
<p>“Premed (or business if i drop out of premed- very likely due to cut pay for specialists)”</p>
<p>do you honestly believe you are going to be happy in life just chasing money?</p>
<p>get back to me when your dad’s promise doesn’t pan out because there are no guarantees in college acceptances, even legacy like you wouldn’t believe can result in rejection</p>
<p>it’s pretty reprehensible that your dad encourages your decision to pursue a career just for the money; what a role model</p>
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<p>wouldn’t it be bad if the admissions officers saw this quote?</p>
<p>eh, sure why not. Then again, ask yourself why in the world would a Columbia Adcom look in this section of CC. Last time i checked, columbia does not have a 7 year BS/MD or BA/MD. Im pretty sure the Adcom wouldnt waste his time scrolling through chance threads during the non-application season.</p>
<p>My dad does not have legacy at Columbia. I HAVE NO LEGACY. There a few directors and some more tenured professors that he know who are close family friends/ were his colleagues (college) in China. I’d say these people throw quite a bit of weight. Stronger this legacy? undoubtedly.</p>
<p>“SAT projected from practice tests: 2310 plus minus 20”</p>
<p>practice tests don’t count; start a chance me once you’ve actually gotten a score. also, columbia isn’t a sure thing yet because you haven’t really gotten an official SAT score. you should plan out your lies better so they aren’t so transparent. </p>
<p>you (one who is obsessed with money) should know that currency is the currency of the world. legacy only matters when parents donate money; people have no obligation to “friends” when it comes to admissions. it’s how it works. professors have little to no say in the admissions process; they have entire admissions departments to make those decisions.</p>
<p>sure an adcom would never see this thread; but you emit that arrogant, money-driven attitdue so well!</p>
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Erm, no. You haven’t done this yet, to my understanding. Get back to us when you take the SAT. </p>
<p>CC’er, you can say whatever you want on the internet; I, for one, am not offended by the silly things you’re expounding (although the idea of someone like you becoming a practicing physician does make me a bit uneasy). This is just a friendly reminder that although it is rare, there have been instances of admissions officers not only lurking these boards but also paying particular attention to certain posts and even “tracking them down” to applicants – something that is not too difficult to do, given the specificity of the information that most “chance me” threads contain. I’m not saying it’s a likely occurrence, but you (as someone who seems to love taking small possibilities for granted) should at least acknowledge this possibility.</p>
<p>Then again, considering that half of what you say about yourself is most likely entirely untrue or distorted in some way, perhaps you’re safe from this threat. ;]</p>
<p>^^^ Interesting. Ill keep my “anti track them down” softwares at maximum functionality. Because according to Urban Dictionary, I am an “elite nerd” HAAHAHAHA. naturally there are ways to keep myself from being tracked.</p>
<p>to karmapigou. If i can find out how to quote, i would quote myself:
“I HAVE NO LEGACY.” I have influential people on my side. Projecting SAT scores is not difficult once you have taken 15 previously administered tests. My average on the last 5 tests confirm my suspicions; I will get a 2300+.
There is a reason why god gave us a head; to deliberate out our thoughts to Ourselves and ourselves only. Im pretty sure i would talk differently around Adcoms/ Alums for interviews.</p>
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You want to know another reason God gave us a head? To figure out how to quote people. :D</p>
<p>why did you capitalize ourselves?</p>
<p>i understand you have no legacy; i’m saying that you can’t count on influential people because college admissions have no obligation to “influential people,” they only have obligations to legacy, which doesn’t always pay off.</p>
<p>if your thoughts are for yourself, why are you sharing them on CC? why should one act and talk differently (other than informal v. formal speech) amongst peers on a website or adcoms/alumNs. Unless you’re admitting that you’d just put up a facade around adcoms/alumNs.</p>
<p>Kids on CC are certainly not my peers, especially not on the Premed sections. I am a junior–> senior. </p>
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<p>thank you.</p>
<p>alright, so you’d be respectful to adcoms/alumNs (i’m trying to teach you how to correctly spell alumNus,alumNa) but not to other students who have achieved more than you? are you that full of yourself?</p>
<p>Ill call em alums thank you. Who are you to claim that you achieved more?</p>
<p>call them alums if you want to be wrong, i don’t really see why you have to be stubborn about someone telling you the correct spelling of something. someone with pride issues such as yourself would probably hate to be seen as ignorant when you say alum. not be personally, although actually getting accepted to a program is more than saying you probably will, objectively speaking. if you do end up winning intel then hats off to you, i could never have won anything like that. but in terms of education, the older posters have several years of college under their belts, and high school pales in comparison to college. just sayin’ that if you feel that you can only respect people you deserve it, the posters here deserve at least a morsel of respect, just a teeny tiny bit if anything. </p>
<p>not to be arrogant but just going by what you say, since HPME and PLME are so hard to get in to that one who gets in can bank on HYPSM, then me being in PLME basically sets me up in the situation that you want to be in next year, so why wouldn’t you respect someone in a position that you want to hold?</p>
<p>and for the alum v alumn thing, you would be fine in sticking to alum if i were just enforcing a pretentious spelling of the word (say for example me telling you to pronounce processes as processEs and not proccesis) but alum isn’t even an accepted modernization of alumnus/a, because its just wrong. just search alum in google, it doesn’t even ask you if you meant alumn because alum is a completely different thing</p>
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Well, alums would disagree with you. As well as Merriam Webster.
<a href=“http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/alum[2][/url]”>http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/alum[2]</a></p>
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i did. 5th link down. FAIL!!!</p>
<p>Alum, 2nd definition: alumnus, alumna.
If you think you are smarter than the MW people, i can only say one thing to you: alum.</p>
<p>CCer, I only have two hopefully chop-bustin’ questions:</p>
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<li><p>Why start a chance me thread if you are already so sure of your chances and fail to even respect the validity of the advice others have given you? We have all gone through the admissions process (you can’t debate that like you could achievement), and we’re only trying to help you. The main question you had in your thread was whether or not your GPA was a weakness. Some offered their input and said that a 3.86 GPA was on the lower side, to which you were very defensive stating that you go to an “extremely elite” private school where Bs are to be expected. And don’t forget to actually take the SAT for real, since after 15 practice tests you can accurately predict your score (but who tries that hard for an aptitude test?) Additionally, no one here doubts that you have very good stats and ecs (your significant hours of volunteering and research are key for medical programs), all we wish to express is that you need be a complete applicant, so don’t forget the value of the essay and the interview (if you can impress the college on all fronts, why not?). I can only glean that you hoped this thread would be an ego booster with people claiming you are a shoe-in, and the unfortunate turn of events for you has made you very defensive. No one is a shoe-in for top tier schools and med programs, you can be an extremely qualified applicant but never a shoe-in because you just don’t know what will happen.</p></li>
<li><p>If you want a lucrative career, why would you put yourself through medical school and residency when you could go straight into business? You have not stated whether or not you have a passion for the sciences, which is why most people assume you only want to become a doctor for the money. One only achieves the stereotyped lifestyle that a doctor lives once he is in his 40s. Going business seems to be a quicker way to a comfortable lifestyle in my opinion (a sister of a friend got a very lucrative job offer when she graduated from Penn). If no emotional attachment to the profession and science ties you to medicine, don’t you think you will forever question and regret your decision to put yourself through the stress of medical school and residency (residents don’t make much money, and idk if you can live with your salary being 40-50k for any point in your professional life). Sure an MD/MBa is a very smart degree to hold, but again if you have no attachment to medicine, it seems like a waste of time for that MD. Even MD/PhDs are foolish if you aren’t prepared to be a doctor first.</p></li>
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<p>I feel as if this thread has gone on for too long and although I do not like your personality (you may not like mine, that’s completely understandable), I will wish you the best of luck in your application process and I would want to hear if you will be a fellow PLME come next April.</p>
<p>lolol Cc’er you’re such a tool don’t go into medicine. being a good student on paper isn’t all you need.</p>