Chances at Brown( or any ivy league)

Colleges and Universities A-Z Brown University
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<p>high school junior, what are my chances at Brown or any Ivy league, plus MIT</p>

<p>Taking all advanced classes offered besides AP art, and IB classes, I will list honors and AP classes</p>

<p>Freshman
Honors BIO
AP world I</p>

<p>Sophomore
Honors Chem
AP World II
Honors English</p>

<p>Junior
AP Stats
AP English lit
AP Physics
AP US history
Honors Pre-calculus</p>

<p>Presumed senior year
AP English writing
AP Gov’t
AP Calculus BC
AP Biology
AP Chemistry</p>

<p>All A,s average of 96.5 class rank is presumed top 5% based on honors listings, class of 350</p>

<p>numbers will be true by the end of high school
4 years active in class office & student Gov
3 year Student tutor volunteer
2 year science Olympiads(started this year)
years of club swimming, I can’t count
4 years varsity swimming, captain 2 years
If it makes a difference I shadowed 3 doctors
I also Lifeguard a couple hours a week.
Applied to volunteer at a local hospital; how much would it help?</p>

<p>SAT I & ACT Scores presumed, based in fact</p>

<p>2100 SAT
31 ACT
750 Chem SAT II
710 Bio SAT II
more SAT s on the way including Math II, and Physics, Math II is definitely 750-800 </p>

<p>Research; Trying to become a volunteer research assistant at a local liberal arts college, I tried their math, chemistry, biology, and physics departments with no success, how much would a position like this help if I stuck with it for the next two years, and got a LOR, any tips on how to attain a position like this?</p>

<p>Chances at Brown, or other Ivies plus MIT?</p>

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<p>Your chances are as good as anyone else’s. It’s a crapshoot for everyone. There is not one specific factor that would let you in. Regardless, you have very nice stats and you should apply - you’ll never know otherwise!!</p>

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<p>cool, might as well right?</p>

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<p>of course! Why not? You’ll never know what might come out of it!!!</p>

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<p>“Ivies + MIT”? </p>

<p>So Brown, Cornell, Dartmouth, Penn are on your list but Cal Tech, Stanford, UChicago are not? </p>

<p>Because they’re not members of a Northeast football conference?</p>

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<p>Tortoise,</p>

<p>While you are probably right, to be fair, none of those schools are in the north east and maybe OP doesn’t want to be in any other region for non-academic reasons.</p>

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<p>I have never understood how anybody could apply to both Brown and Univ. of Chicago unless they have not investigated the schools or are more concerned about meaningless rankings than a good fit. Neither of which is a good idea. Anyone who is a good undergraduate fit for Brown is very unlikely to be a good fit for UoC and vice versa. Remember what UoC is called: the “place where fun goes to die”. By the way, do not take this as a slam on UoC. It is a great school as is Brown but the undergraduate experiences are very different.</p>

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<p>^ I don’t know how different Brown and UofC could be…yes, Brown is probably more liberal, but how would that affect the (social) experience? My school is liberal but honestly I don’t think it’d be that much different from other schools unless you were comparing it to Wheaton in IL, then the entire curriculum would be different. I mean, you’d be challenged at both schools I’m sure, but honestly your education is what you make of it. Brown doesn’t have a core (UC does) and this would make a difference, but they’re still going to have the same left, wealthy, white types of people. it’s not a bad thing…it just depends what you’d rather have.</p>

<p>I’m only saying this because I applied to schools that were on both ends of the spectrum. I think it’s completely fine if someone wants to apply to liberal and more conservative-leaning schools, but UChicago is far from being conservative.</p>

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<p>I was not referring to politics or social life. I was referring to curriculum. Brown and Chicago (or sometimes Columbia) are the typical examples for the extreme ends of the spectrum.</p>

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<p>Yes, the curricula and approaches to education are very different at UofC and Brown. However, they do tend to both attract intelligent, interested students and the undergrad experiences out of class are similar.</p>

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<p>Actually, UChicago is not at the extreme end at all…most courses are electives. But it’s no Brown, that’s for sure.</p>

<p>Funny, I was torn between the two places. In the end, Brown made it easy by rejecting me (in those days, UChicago admissions were not nearly as competitive as they are now; certainly nothing like Brown at the time.)</p>

<p>In hindsight, I’m glad I went where I did–I found UChicago to be a magical place, quite frankly–but I’ve a hunch I would have felt the same way about Brown.</p>

<p>In the context of institutions of this caliber, it’s not so much where you go as what you do once you’re there…</p>

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<p>Solid chance</p>

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<p>I think everyone should apply. Look, no matter what your “chances are,” u’re still going to try your best. Your “chances” don’t affect your behavior, right?
J</p>

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<p>like uPenn and Columbia right? different ends of the spectrum</p>

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<p>@julieleftman Ooh, what do you mean, UPenn and Brown are on opposite ends of a spectrum?</p>

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<p>She means liberal vs. conservative I think.</p>

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<p>My son was accepted to both (Brown and Chicago). And after visiting, decided on Brown. While both schools are different, they both are for curious kids in a different way. I saw this remark several times, but after looking at both schools it actually does not surprise me some kids apply to both.</p>

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<p>why wouldn’t people apply to both? They’re both top-ranked, prestigious, elite institutions!!</p>

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This would make MIT unlikely.</p>

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<p>“why wouldn’t people apply to both? They’re both top-ranked, prestigious, elite institutions!!”</p>

<p>For example, they might be more concerned about attending a school that is a good academic fit rather than attending any “top-ranked, prestigious, elite institution”. </p>

<p>If “prestige” is all that matters, why bother with Brown or Chicago? Go for HYPS.</p>