<p>i love you for your ridiculous jokes.
How would a 2100 SAT look? Do you think I should work on getting great SAT2's or take the ACT with writing?</p>
<p>Quagmire, if only they would let me in just cause I'm a legacy!! Hopefully they'll let me in with above average grades and scores and despite the fact I'm one!!!!!!</p>
<p>Suze, do I detect some sarcasm in that last post?</p>
<p>What you can detect, my honest belief, is who knows. I've seen perfect scorers not get in so I'm not counting on anything. But you read these boards and people with 1410s are convinced they can get in and I just really start to hope....</p>
<p>We'll see in the fall.....</p>
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<p>What's wrong w/ having a 1430 on the old SAT? Keep in mind only the top 2% of the people who take the SAT score 1400+ on the old SAT.</p>
<p>BTW, Dartmouth is very SAT driven. I know this from experience. I had an acquiantance who applied to Dartmouth with a 3.99 GPA, around 7-8 AP classes, and a 1280 old SAT score. Couldn't cut it. She got rejected from Dartmouth. Her class rank was signficantly higher than this other kid who got a 3.8 (not as many AP classes) and his SAT score was around 1400+ old SAT score. He got accepted. </p>
<p>Yeah, what can I say? They place a ****load of emphasis on those SAT scores. I think if you can break a 1400, your in good shape; a 1500 and your in great shape. A 1550 + and your in excellent shape. Otherwise, get those scores up.</p>
<p>I think that a 1280 honestly is a deal breaker at almost any ivy.</p>
<p>could someone explain the pickup line to me? I'm confused :confused:</p>
<p>i heard it from a friend in latin club (yes, im a nerd). chloroform is something used to knock someone out. that should help.</p>
<p>odyssy5red- i think you have a great chance and they probably won't even consider your old SAT scores- especially considering your scores on the new SAT are awesome and are from a more recent exam... if you don't get in- it won't be your test scores. As for being a white upper-middle-class kid from a public high school....i got in...and even tho it's not to your advantage, you just have to forget about it and focus the admission officers in on something else that makes you shine.</p>
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<p>The scores seem fine. </p>
<p>If you dont get into Dartmouth, it will probably have more to do with your sense of humor than your scores.</p>
<p>As to the SAT driven thing, show me some non-hooked people who got into any Ivy with a 1280 (since re-centering). </p>
<p>I wont be holding my breath.</p>
<p>this is kind of old but back to the legacy thing, if i had legacy (which i don't, at any school) and i wanted to go to that same school b/c of my own personal reasons, i wouldn't give a flying crud what ppl say. they might think i'm living under my parents' shadow, but i'd just think it's great that i have one more thing in common with them. </p>
<p>the whole admissions system isn't exactly "fair" ("fair" according to some ppl's definition, i.e. pure merit-based). yes, so legacy gets a boost, but so do first generation, URMs, athletes, etc. bringing all these ppl on campus have their advantages, so what's with the singling out of random hooks?</p>
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<p>just apply man, i think you have a solid shot. not a shoo-in, but i say don't listen to ppl who say you definitely won't get in, b/c you're definitely not the type of applicant that's an automatic reject. besides, the dmouth app is crazy easy (the only person doing the extra work is whoever's doing your peer rec). if you really really love dmouth, apply early (visit if you can; if i had visited dmouth before applying to colleges, i woulda saved a lot of time by applying there early). best of luck!</p>
<p>bump.........</p>
<p>Dartmouth is the least stat-driven of all the Ivies. It is the only one that consideres character and personal qualities "very important". Being the smallest of the Ivies, it also takes the most holistic approach to applicants. I'm not going to tell you high SAT scores aren't important, but some people need to chill out. I'd encourage you to apply even if you had a 1000 SAT, if you truly want to attend Dartmouth. Make your personality shine in your essays and interviews and make sure Dartmouth knows how much you love them! I'm thinking about applying ED here, although I only got a 2080 (1280 old) on my SATs. (For the record, I'm taking them again; and I'm a National Merit Semifinalist because I got a 2270 on my PSATs, 780CR 690M 800W).</p>
<p>Btw, not that personal cases prove anything, but my neighbor--valedictorian at her HS with outstanding scores and an equestrian star--got rejected ED at Dartmouth and I'd bet my life it's because she's the most boring, dry, arrogant, non-charismatic person in the world.</p>
<p>Don't discount how much personality can count in admissions. It's important to have REASONABLE grades and scores, but each application at Dartmouth is reviewed by 2, sometimes 3, different people and thoughtfully considered for (and I quote the website), "qualities such as passion for ideas, dedication to learning, leadership, compassion, integrity, motivation, and sense of humor."</p>
<p>"Dartmouth is the least stat-driven of all the Ivies." </p>
<p>I dont think you have the facts to back that up. Dartmouth's SAT average is by no mean the least of all Ivies. I think we are the 2nd if not the 3rd highest. And I dont think someone with a 1000 SAT with nothing but a "shiny" personality is going to get in. While your friend was rejected at Dart, keep in mind that more than 30% of students at Dart are valedictorians/salutatorians.</p>
<p>Dartmouth is the only one of the Ivies that considers character to be highly important and openly requires a peer recommendation. I think, by pure logic, it's safe to say that Dartmouth considers more than simply stats. </p>
<p>To some degree a high SAT average at a school like Dartmouth is self-selecting because the people with the grades to get in generally do well on the SAT. However, if you have great grades but do poorly or mediocre on your SATs, I think colleges DO recognize, to some degree, that the SAT is merely ONE day of testing and cannot and should not negate four years of outstanding academic performance. Therefore, all other things being competetive, I would never tell someone not to apply based on SAT score alone. Now, if a person had a 1000 SAT AND a 3.1 GPA and no honors classes...then I'd say forget it.</p>
<p>Also, she was not my friend. :) I'm telling you, this girl was unlikeable. She was arrogant, mean, boring, self-centered, and totally lacked a sense of humor--but boy her stats were good. She went to Bowdoin, by the way.</p>
<p>All I'm saying is, if everything else were equal or at least comparable, a great personality can be the deciding factor.</p>
<p>you don't have to send all your SAT scores when you apply nowadays do you?</p>