Chances at Harvard/Brown?

<p>I sent in the apps a few weeks ago and I'm very nervous. I am curious to know how I compare with the other applicants to Harvard and Brown so I can know what to expect come April.</p>

<p>GPA: 3.90
School does not rank</p>

<p>SAT I:
Math - 800
Verbal - 760
Writing - 730
Total - 2290</p>

<p>SAT II:
Physics - 760
Math IIC - 800
U.S. History - 720</p>

<p>Advanced Placement classes taken:
Calculus AB - 5
Physics B - 5
U.S. History - 4
English Language - 5
Psychology - 4</p>

<p>Senior Year APs:
Calculus BC
Chemistry
Computer Science AB
English Literature</p>

<p>ECs:
- Editor in Chief of school paper
- Write reviews of comedy clubs and concert venues for a local paper
- First Violin in school orchestra (I played at Harvard with some of my orchestra buddies and they paid me)
- Started a local volunteer organization to assist the elderly
- Plenty of volunteer experience at my local hospital
- I participated in a civil engineering research program for high school students at RPI</p>

<p>Awards:
- AIME commended
- National Merit semi-finalist
- National School Orchestra Award
- AP Scholar with distinction
- NHS</p>

<p>Recs: Excellent (one was written by a professor at Columbia University from the summer program I attended)</p>

<p>Essays: My AP English teacher says they're excellent, and I greatly value his opinion.</p>

<p>I was already accepted to Georgetown EA but really want to attend either Harvard or Brown.</p>

<p>Your Scores and GPA are strong...your recs and essays should help you also. Your awards are pretty nice, but not excellent. Editor-in-chief looks good...so does starting your own volunteer organization and playing first violin. Are you white/asian/some minority? Where do you live? Are you a legacy at either school? You definitely are a very strong applicant, but nothing is guaranteed at either of these schools. Living in an outreach area, being a legacy, or being an under-represented minority could all benefit you a lot however. You're good in every area; hopefully you get in!</p>

<p>I compared your stats with mine. My GPA and SAT scores are siginificantly better. Have taken the most rigorous courses in my HS, but our AP courses are fewer in number. My rank is 2/450. I have different ECs, but equally strong. Have awards including NMSF. I'd think if you can get into Harvard or Brown, I too should be in. (I've applied to HYB.) But one never knows. So for me I feel the chances are</p>

<p>Harvard - 20% {meaning 20% of the kids with my credentials will be accepted)
Brown - 30%
Yale - 25%</p>

<p>It'll be fun when the decisions come out!</p>

<p>From what I gather their decisions are going to be a complete mystery (which is good considering it's not a definite no!). I don't have any hooks like a legacy status or anything like that. I did forget to mention that my organization recieved a lot of attention from the press (I know Harvard caught wind of it since my interviewer mentioned reading about me).</p>

<p>Harvard's difficult to say, but I think you have a chance. =)</p>

<p>beantowngal:</p>

<p>Stickler's GPA is almost a 4.0, and his/her SAT is almost a 2300 -- thus yours can't be "significantly better." At any rate, there are applicants whose stats aren't as good as others and get in, while those with somewhat better stats don't. Harvard looks for personality and strength in character (especially through essays), not as much on scores and such (though those tend to be high with strong applicants, anyway).</p>

<p>Also, I think your chance at Brown is slightly more likely. Harvard's admittees tend to be pretty awesome, so working hard on essays, etc. is where your the biggest part of your chances lies.</p>

<p>May be you are right, but 3.9 versus 4.0 (all A's) and 2290 versus 2360 seemed to be significant to me. I agree other factors come into play at these selective colleges. But predictions have to be made looking at the numbers. Actual results can be anything since only the ADCOMs see the complete application.
So, let us wait and see...............</p>

<p>You seriously should have Harvard EAed like I should have Stanford EAed, but whatever it's too late now. </p>

<p>Solid candidate so reject as of now. </p>

<p>Yeah, its tough, but assuming you have excellent essays and recommendations, you may well get into Harvard. You are not too distinguished though from the rest of the applicants as of now. Basically a muddy diamond indistinguishable from the rocks, but with excellent essays you can shine.</p>

<p>Damn Beantown...relax. Whatever happened to propriety? You might have a 2360 but when you have to start interacting with people in the real world...good luck.</p>

<p>OK, then... All of us have an equal and 'good' chance of getting into Ivys. Happy? Why even discuss chances then?
Btw, read OP's post, he/she wanted comparison with other applicants to H & B. I obliged and gave my assessment for myself and for him...</p>

<p>beantowngal, I sincerely hope that's not the tone with which you wrote your essay...</p>

<p>beantowngal, i know your type, the arrogant asian kind</p>

<p>^^^, Really? And the point of your post is....????
Read OP's post, he want comparisons with the credentials of other applicants.
Prescited, don't worry about me. I am fine.</p>

<p>^^^ I mean I already have admission to where I'll be happy.</p>

<p>Omg! Seeing these scores make me feel embarrassed :o lol.</p>

<p>I think you have a good chance. I feel inferior. haha.</p>

<p>How much easier is it than, say, undergrad fresh. and trans. admissions at HYB. What undergrad GPA is needed??</p>

<p>i think you have a very good chance at harvard ebcause of your previous affilliation. i think brown will look upon you with respect because of your ny independent writer/music, etc. (somewhat artsy?) vibe or w/e</p>

<p>i hope you get in</p>

<p>beantown: give it up. you know you feel inferior.</p>

<p>beantowngal:</p>

<p>"May be you are right, but 3.9 versus 4.0 (all A's) and 2290 versus 2360 seemed to be significant to me."</p>

<p>3.9 vs. 4.0? So he/she got a B. Big whoop. And once you get around the 2300 range, differences in score don't matter. </p>

<p>"But predictions have to be made looking at the numbers."</p>

<p>Indeed, and since we're looking only at numbers, the precision of our predictions is limited. The numbers that Stickler and you offer don't lend enough precision to say which of you has more of a chance; thus, if I were to chance you two, I'd guess that you two have the exact same chances everywhere (based on the numbers alone).</p>

<p>I think you have a good chance of getting into Brown..
Brown is hard to get into, but not that hard that it is as crazy of a reach as Harvard or Yale!
Congrats on Georgetown by the way!</p>