Chances at Penn

Chance Me / Match Me!
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<p>Hey all. I am very interested in University of Pennsylvania but I have many questions. How competitive is the Engineering School vs. the School of Arts and Sciences? Also, I want to be premed but I also really like physics. Is it possible for me to take classes in the Engineering School if I am enrolled in the School of Arts and Sciences?</p>

<p>Lastly, the following are some of my basic scores, what are my chances of getting into UPenn's Engineering School? What about the School of Arts and Sciences?</p>

<p>Sats:
680 CR
780 Math
720 Writing</p>

<p>Sat IIs
Physics 770
Math 2C 710
U.S. History 700</p>

<p>GPA: 4.55
School doesn't rank (There are a lot of kids with really high GPA's so they think its pointless. Im definately in the top 10% though)</p>

<p>senior year
ap calc bc/multi
ap music theory
ap physics C both Mechanics and E&M
ap latin catullus
ap english</p>

<p>junior year
ap u.s. history
ap calc ab
ap physics B
honors english
latin III</p>

<p>sophomore year
ap european history
comprehensive chem (highest difficulty)
honors english
honors pre-calc
latin II</p>

<p>ECs: I have been first chair alto saxophone in the jazz band, saxophone ensemble, and wind ensemble. It's rare for a freshman to make jazz band freshman year so that was an accomplishment.
I currently play all saxophones, and taught myself piano, clarinet, and the flute.
I was on varsity soccer (manager) for the past two years.
I run a music event called the Coffeehouse at my school, which is a pretty demanding position
I am a Campus Minister, which means that I am in charge of Community Service at my school. This year, our school has been close to 100% voluntary community service.
I have written music performed in concerts by the Saxophone Ensemble and am currently working on a piece for the Wind Ensemble.
I will be submitting a recording on the alto sax.
I'm probably forgetting something but to be honest I am vry involved and I think it will show in my application. (I'm not trying to brag, I just really want to know how real my chances are)</p>

<p>I am also thinking about applying to the following:
Penn
Columbia
Brown
Harvard (my #1 choice)
Georgetown
Boston College
Notre Dame</p>

<p>Tell what you think please</p>

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<p>I forgot a lot of e.c. and awards and such.</p>

<p>Council of Seniors (student government)
Deanery Leader
Retreat Leader
Campus Ministry Award (Most Community Service in the School)
Benedictines of East Africa and Delbarton Students (Service Trip to Nairobi, Kenya)
SHAWCO Volunteer, Cape Town, South Africa
Appalachia Volunteer, Kentucky</p>

<p>Music:
NJPAC Jazz for Teens
William Paterson Jazz Summer Camp
Governor's School Alternate (I didn't get in but i took it as a compliment to come so close)
North Jersey Student Music Association North Jersey Region Band (First Chair)
Delbarton Arts Council Student Representative
Student Leader for Delbarton Music Ensembles</p>

<p>ok now i think i'm done :)</p>

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<p>How competitive is the Engineering School vs. the School of Arts and Sciences?</p>

<p>The SAS is more competitive and has a much lower acceptance rate, however, the Engineering School applicant pool is very self-selective so it's really not all that easier to get into.</p>

<p>Is it possible for me to take classes in the Engineering School if I am enrolled in the School of Arts and Sciences?</p>

<p>Yes. Penn has a 'One University' policy where you can take classes in any school at Penn (including the graduate schools), irrespective of the one you are enrolled in. Minors in other schools, and dual-degrees between schools are also possible. Look into the Liberal Studies and Technology program which you can apply to and earn degrees from both the Engineering School and the SAS. You can also apply for a dual-degree or transfer between schools at the end of your freshman and sophomore years but this depends on your GPA. </p>

<p>Also, I want to be premed but I also really like physics.</p>

<p>A lot of ppl premed from Engineering, but more so from SAS. It is generally harder to get a strong GPA from Engineering as opposed to SAS so that may affect your med-school chances. </p>

<p>Lastly, the following are some of my basic scores, what are my chances of getting into UPenn's Engineering School? What about the School of Arts and Sciences?</p>

<p>You have a decent, but not particularly great, shot at both. Apply to the one who's programs interest you more.</p>

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<p>Penn - Reach
Columbia - Slight Reach
Brown - Slighter Reach
Harvard (my #1 choice) - Reach
Georgetown - Match
Boston College - Safety
Notre Dame - Match</p>

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<p>BA/MD PROGRAMS please chance me!!!!!! :)
School Activities (Dates, Offices, Positions)</p>

<p>2007-Current, Student Council (Vice President of Student Council and Senior Class/Student Body)
2006-2007, Student Council (11th grade Class Senator)
2006 & 2007, JV Boys’ Tennis
2006-2007, JV Boys’ Winter Track
2006-Current School Newspaper (Writer)
2005-Current Scholars Bowl Participant
2007-Current Frankford Med Scholars Program (shadowing doctors)</p>

<p>Volunteer Activities
40 hours earned during the summer volunteering at St. Mary’s Medical Center.
Approximately 85 hours earned so far as a Red Cross volunteer since Feb 2006.
Volunteer at Frankford Hospital Emergency Room for 2006-2007 school-year (every Tuesday for 4 hours) (36 hours collected).</p>

<p>Work Experience
None.</p>

<p>Awards, Honors etc
Who’s Who Among American High School Students award recipient. (2006, 2007, 2008)
President’s Award for Educational Excellence presented in recognition of Outstanding Academic Excellence (2004, 2006, & 2007)
Mathematics and Verbal Talent Search conducted by the Johns Hopkins University Center for Talented Youth State Award presented for being among the highest scoring participants in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania 2003/2004 (for scoring higher than the average college-bound twelfth grade student on the SAT I in 2003/2004).
Spatial Test Battery certificate sponsored by JHU for scoring at or above 600 on the Spatial Test Battery 2004.
National Honor Roll (2007)
AP Scholar with Distinction (2007)
National Honor Society (2007)
National French Honor Society (2007)
National Society of High School Scholars (2006)
National Merit Commended Scholar (2007)</p>

<p>GPA: 3.833uw, 4.686weighted</p>

<p>Rank: Tied for #1 with others (i know that im in top ten out of 886 students)</p>

<p>SAT: First Test M760 R690 W570
Second Test M710 R760 W740</p>

<p>SAT IIs: MathII 800
Chemistry 780
Biology 760</p>

<p>ACT: 34</p>

<p>AP Exams: 2006- Physics B(5), Chemistry(5)
2007- Biology(5), Calculus AB(5), Lang&Comp(5), Microeconomics(4)
2008- im taking AP US, AP Environmental Science, AP Physics C, AP Lit&Comp, AP Stat, and AP French, likely to average almost a solid A in each of those</p>

<p>Recommendations are probly good not great, and my essay is good not great (meaning its not unique but its written decently, will probly look like majority applicant essays)</p>

<p>what are my chances at penn?</p>

<p>*is it a good idea to use my student council vice presidency as a hook?</p>

<p>thanks, be honest everyone</p>

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<p>Don't take over someone else's thread.</p>

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<p>**<strong><em>Another thing to note:
*</em></strong>*My unwieghted GPA is 4.0. My school does it where only a 97-100 percent in a regular class or a 94-100% in an AP class can make ur GPA above a 4.0</p>