<p>GPA:4.3 (UC)
TAKEN THREE AP CLASSES AND GOING TO TAKE 3 MORE AP IN SENIOR YEAR
AP BIO: 2 AP CHEM: 3 AP CAL:3
SAT: 2000~2100
SAT2: MATH 2C:750 CHEMISTRY:700 PHYSICS:700</p>
<p>IN-STATE</p>
<p>TENNIS: 1 YEAR
BASKETBALL:1 YEAR
SOCCER: 1 YEAR
TRACK: 1 YEAR
AND SOME MORE SPORTS...</p>
<p>AWARDS:
2 President awards (Gold)
4 principal awards
Students of the year for AP CHEMISTRY
SOME sports awards</p>
<p>-I AM THINKING TO MAJOR IN EITHER BIOLOGY OR CHEMISTRY
I got A in both AP CHEM AND AP BIO but I did bad in AP TEST</p>
<p>A lot of sports. Please tell me that they are school teams, and not personal activities... If they are school activities, a clarification of JV or Varsity will help. </p>
<p>Don't send your scores, and find out what you got on the SAT for proper. </p>
<p>Have you done anything else other than sports? You must at least be in one club right?</p>
<p>UCLA: high match - slight reach
Berkeley: slight reach - reach</p>
<p>Your AP scores are subpar, your other scores are average, your ECs are weak, and your awards/honors are average - weak. Plus, you're applying for a competitive major (either bio or chem).</p>
<p>Oh...
I forgot to mention it.
-My sports awards: "best at Marathon" in my freshman year
-Second best academic tennis team in the league
-Normal tennis award</p>
<p>Biology and Chemistry majors are not impacted, therefore, in the eyes of admissions officers, they are treated as any other CL&S major. AP scores are not considered for admissions purposes. The OP's scores are the "average" for both schools, and his EC's, while admittedly weak, won't necessarily be a detriment to him, especially in light of his high UC GPA (Berkeley's average is 4.17, UCLA's average is 4.13)</p>
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Biology and Chemistry majors are not impacted, therefore, in the eyes of admissions officers, they are treated as any other CL&S major.
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<p>Despite not being 'officially' impacted, they are still very competitive majors -- i.e. they're very large. Plenty of very qualified people have been rejected before, having applied for competitive majors.</p>
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AP scores are not considered for admissions purposes.
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<p>Then why is the applicant asked to report his/her AP scores in a specific section on the app?</p>
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The OP's scores are the "average" for both schools
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<p>The projected scores, I think, considering it says 2000~2100; I've found that people's actual scores tend to be lower, though that wasn't a sincere consideration when chancing the OP.</p>
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his EC's, while admittedly weak, won't necessarily be a detriment to him
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<p>I really disagree. ECs are important, and the OP's are weak; therefore, it'll be a detriment to him.</p>
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especially in light of his high UC GPA
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<p>Which isn't that far above the average, so not quite enough to overlook his ECs.</p>
<p>The competition when you declare your major as bio/chem is one thing, getting admitted as that major is another. It doesn't matter how many supposedly academically strong people get rejected, that's just the luck of the draw. Choosing that major over Native American studies will not at all make a difference because people applying to L&S are all treated as undeclared. If it were really that big of a deal, anyone can easily apply to an "easier" major within L&S and transfer at any time.</p>
<p>AP scores have explicitly been stated to not affect a student's admission prospects. I believe our neighborhood adcom UCD Admissions made it clear that they will not adversely affect anyone's chances. Whether or not UCLA/Cal follow that is their business, but that's the official UC stance and filling out the AP scores on the application should not affect that at all. </p>
<p>His EC's don't show significant commitment, but they are enough to get into the top UCs. UC Berkeley and UCLA seriously aren't as hard to get into as you make them out to be. He has enough, and he has enough awards as well. </p>
<p>His UC GPA is significantly above the average, and is enough to make up for his ECs. Despite what you would think about the average UC GPAs on the websites, its an average. The top rank of people that apply to Berkeley/LA are the ones that tend to also get into Ivies. Those people bring up this supposed average. When you look at the average of incoming freshman, that would be a more accurate assumption as to the GPA necessary to be accepted (the school's individual websites are inaccurate for this purpose though since that's not a UC GPA you see)</p>
<p>Flippy: You might want to review the terms of service here at CC, lest you be banned for being rude and asinine.</p>
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Anyone who thinks AP scores matters for college admissions is an idiot.
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<p>It's well known that AP scores generally do not affect admissions. Despite this, it's pretty clear that they are factored into UC admissions, however small, since the applicant is asked to report scores on the application.</p>
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And since when do EC's make or break an applicant at a public school?
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<p>I'm sorry you weren't aware that publics can be very selective. ECs are considered "important" by UCLA and Berkeley. Look at the admissions statistics for Berkeley:</p>
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<li>Over 50% of those with a 4.0 or higher were rejected.</li>
<li>Over 50% of those with a 31-36 ACT score were rejected.</li>
<li>Over 50% of those with an SAT CR score of 700-800 were rejected.</li>
<li>Almost 60% of those with an SAT M score of 700-800 were rejected.</li>
<li>Over 50% of those with an SAT W score of 700-800 were rejected.</li>
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<p>I think it's safe to say that there is much more affecting Berkeley admissions than numbers, namely ECs and essays. The same is probably true for UCLA, too.</p>
<p>So does the major matter that much. I too want to apply to UClA and Cal with a Pre-med major. However, I am scared I won't get into the colleges sine pre-med is such a competitive major. What should I do?</p>
<p>Unknown4ever: In the case above, it doesn't matter that much, but it's well known that biology and chemistry are very common majors.</p>
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I too want to apply to UClA and Cal with a Pre-med major. However, I am scared I won't get into the colleges sine pre-med is such a competitive major. What should I do?
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<p>This is a common misconception. Pre-med is not a major. As an undergrad, you major in whatever you want, and before graduating, you take a few required courses for med school, which together are known as "pre-med." The same is the case for law. Thus, pre-med isn't a competitive 'major,' so it won't hurt your chances if you want to do that.</p>
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<li>Over 50% of those with a 4.0 or higher were rejected.</li>
<li>Over 50% of those with a 31-36 ACT score were rejected.</li>
<li>Over 50% of those with an SAT CR score of 700-800 were rejected.</li>
<li>Almost 60% of those with an SAT M score of 700-800 were rejected.</li>
<li>Over 50% of those with an SAT W score of 700-800 were rejected.</li>
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<p>You can flip it to say:</p>
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<li>Almost 50% of those with a 4.0 or higher were accepted.</li>
<li>Almost 50% of those with a 31-36 ACT score were accepted.</li>
<li>Almost 50% of those with an SAT CR score of 700-800 were accepted.</li>
<li>Over 40% of those with an SAT M score of 700-800 were accepted.</li>
<li>Almost 50% of those with an SAT W score of 700-800 were accepted.</li>
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<p>Now, if you do the same with top privates, you'll notice that 50% and 40% turn into 30% to 25%.</p>
<p>And yeah, numbers isn't everything. Which state you live in, your essay (assuming applicant is a CA resident), and your class rigor along with your GPA and SAT scores is everything. EC's are considered, but they almost never make or break an applicant.</p>