<p>"I don't think USC is easier to get into than UCLA. I personally didn't apply to USC, but the people that got into Berkeley and UCLA all got rejected at USC (at least the 8 or so that applied). I actually think USC might be a little numbers-based than UCLA because those SAT averages are pretty darn high."</p>
<p>vu<em>preuss</em>06, what kids do you know that got into berkeley and ucla, and got denied to usc? that is very rare. furthermore, usc computes their sat numbers quite different from ucla and berkeley. usc takes best areas of numerous tests, while ucla and berkeley take best single sitting. this deflates berkeley and ucla's numers significantly when comparing them to usc, yet even with this deflation applied to ucla and berkeley, they still post almost identical numbers or higher than usc. usc, furthermore, doesnt validate their sat averages with any professional orgranization as most schools do at their level, which casts more doubt on their statistics validity. you must take into account the way schools compute their sat's when evaluating their numbers. furthermore, uc berkeley, ucla and ucsd all have significantly higher gpa averages than usc. usc has gotten significantly more competitive over the past 10 years, but on par or better than a berkeley, you have got to be kidding me.</p>
<p>"Rocket DA, im not sure where you came up with those odds, they seem way off to me, but everyone is entitles to their opinion."</p>
<p>Well, it appears no one has had any objections to my listing (besides you) and it has been there for several months. Perhaps they are in the correct ballpark?</p>
<p>I guess we cancel eachother out because I think that your rankings of Cornell, Berkeley, UCLA, WUSTL above HMC is a load of bullocks. HMC's test scores, Phd productivity, average entrance GPA, avg graduate salary are higher than all of these schools. Furthermore, when putting students face-to-face in technical academic competitions, HMC ranks with MIT, Caltech, Harvard, etc... even though HMC has 1/10 the students to pull from.</p>
<p>Now, you tell me. Do the numbers lie or are you just ignorant about the situation?</p>
<p>haha, rocketDA, i put berkeley as a match-safe match and hmc as a safe match, almost identical. if you want to be that picky i felt ucla and berkeley fell closer to safe matches for the stats of the poster, but it is difficult to call berkeley and ucla a safe match for anyone, even the poster, which is why i put them as match-safe match. with the posters stats hmc's admissions are not as random as a place like berkeley, which does not meen it is easier to get into, just that the school is not as random with its selection, which is why i called it a safe match, and i stick by that. you must evaluate these schools with more than just numbers, especially a place like berkeley which denies top students with awesome stats and can at times admit individuals with lower stats for other unspecified reasons. I stand by my ranking 100%, especially when comparing your rankings to mine, i believe your flaws are much more evident than the flaws in mine. for christ sake, you have usc as a match and berkeley as a match/safe match. you seemed to comprehend that your stats could be off when you posted them as you even put "im sure im gonna be ripped for this". you should know that before your post some stating "do the numbers like or are you just ignorant about this situation" that there is a lot more to admissions than just numbers, especially at highly selective institutions. Further, when calling someone ignorant about a situation, make sure you dont have ridiculous claims on your own post such as usc a match and berkeley a safe match. get your crap in order before bagging on mine. further understand that berkeley and ucla compute their sat's quite different than hmc. hmc takes best score in each area from numerous sittings. berkeley and ucla take the best single sitting score, which deflates their sat averages. even with this computational method, berkeley's numbers are very very similar to hmc, and berkeley bosts an average capped gpa of almost 4.2, higher than harvey mudd, and a acceptance rate of under 25%.</p>