Chances for a student not looking at Ivys

Chance Me / Match Me!
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<p>Incoming senior, female.</p>

<p>SAT: 1950 CR - 680, Writing - 650, Math - 620
(first time around- hope to advance to 2150 second time)</p>

<p>GPA: School does not calculate GPA. It is not because they do not give it to us, they do not calculate it.</p>

<p>GRADES: Second Semester Junior Year:
Math: B+
Cont. Lit: A-
Spanish V: B
Chem: C (I know.)
Economics: A-
Journalism: B+
SAT II'S: Math IC: 690 (Will take IIC and Lit)</p>

<p>CLASS RANK: School does not have class rank. </p>

<p>1ST SEMESTER SENIOR CLASSES:
Current Events
Senior Seminar (english class)
Arabic (independent study)
Pre-Calc
Evolution
Spanish VI
Comparative Religion</p>

<p>RACE: Hispanic
LOCATION: New York City
SCHOOL: Extremely competitive small private school (Dalton). School does not have AP classes (we do not even take AP exams), nor do we have class rank or a GPA system. 100% of graduating class goes onto college, usually all top-tier schools (with the exception of 3 or 4 going to SUNY or state schools)
FAMILY: 1st generation going to college</p>

<p>MAJOR EXTRACURRICULARS
Habitat For Humanity (2 years)
Tickled Pink <a href="2%20years">Teen Vogue annual fund raiser committee for breast cancer</a>
Winter Track (2 years)
Newspaper (2 years)
Model UN (3 years)
Environmental Club (2 years)</p>

<p>SERVICE WORK: 200 hours since 10th grade. </p>

<p>WORK: I have had internships at Sotheby and Time Warner in the past two summers</p>

<p>PROSPECTIVE MAJOR: Economics/History
TEACHER RECS: I am very close with all of my teachers; it is just the way my school is. I will get one from my math teacher from junior year, one from my Arabic/English teacher, and one from my 10th grade english teacher and adviser. Plus the one from my two college counselors. </p>

<p>PROSPECTIVE COLLEGES: As you can see, I am applying to schools that do not put a huge emphasis on numbers and SATs (as most of these schools are SAT optional) and care more about the person. <b> I have/will visit/have interviews with most, if not all of these schools</b></p>

<p>Kenyon (probably apply early)
Reed
Bates
Colby
UVM (University of Vermont)
Skidmore
Lewis & Clark
Pitzer
Syracuse
Bowdoin (huge, huge reach)</p>

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<p>Reed looks like a reach or low match by your SAT, but essays and curriculum rigor are more important. First generation is a plus. Interview and visit are important.</p>

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<p>thanks vossron.</p>

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<p>i really need feedback guys..</p>

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<p>bumping to the top</p>

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<p>"Extremely competitive small private school (Dalton). School does not have AP classes (we do not even take AP exams), nor do we have class rank or a GPA system. 100% of graduating class goes onto college, usually all top-tier schools "</p>

<p>It is difficult to chance you without GPA or class rank and not knowing how colleges view the competitiveness of your high school. You have proably already asked your guidance counselor how you compare to students accepted into the schools you list? </p>

<pre><code> If you don't submit your SATs then your grades are going to be more strongly weighted. Your junior year grades on a 4.0 scale would be about a 3.1 (B), whereas the average GPA for the schools you list is going to be A- or higher. UVM takes a large portion of out of state kids so if you are out of state you have a shot there. I would suggest picking a few from your lists as reaches and then add some schools that are less competitive for matches or safeties like St. Michaels in Colchester, Vermont (very near U of Vt), Siena in Loudonville, NY, etc.
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<p>Put it this way: My school is the creme de la creme of NY students. </p>

<p>Not a competitive atmosphere, but yeah a B in my school could be an A in a regular public school.</p>

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<p>bumper......</p>

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<p>From the Dalton School Website. Very impressive list of schools that your peers have been admitted. However, again - your situation is so unique, you should ask guidance to compare your stats to others admitted to the schools of your interest. Does your school offer the navistar (sp) program?</p>

<p>Last Five Year Enrollments - Dalton School</p>

<p>Of the 526 graduates of the classes of 2002-2006, nearly 100% have matriculated at four-year colleges. College enrollment figures for two or more for the five classes are:</p>

<p>University of Pennsylvania (32), Harvard (23), Yale (22), Brown (18), Cornell (18), Northwestern (18), Wesleyan (18), Amherst (17), Columbia (17), Princeton (16), Dartmouth (14), Boston University (13), Colgate (12), Michigan (12), University of Chicago (11), Wisconsin (11), Washington University in St. Louis (11), Hamilton (10), John Hopkins (10), New York University (10), George Washington (9), Stanford (9), Williams (9), Bowdoin (8), Duke (8), Indiana (8), Oberlin (8), Tufts (8), Bard (7), Connecticut College (7), Trinity (7), Barnard (6), Brandeis (6), Georgetown (6), Syracuse (6), Vassar (6), Bryn Mawr (4), Bucknell (4), Emory (4), Kenyon (4), Middlebury (4), Vanderbilt (4), Bates (3), Carnegie Mellon (3), Fordham (3), Reed (3), Skidmore (3), Tulane (3), University of North Carolina (3), Carleton (2), Claremont McKenna (2), Colby (2), Hobart and William Smith (2), Hunter College (2), Lehigh (2), Muhlenberg (2), Pomona (2), Rice (2), Sarah Lawrence (2), Smith (2), Swarthmore (2), University of Miami (2), University of Rochester (2), University of Southern California (2), University of St. Andrews (2), University of Vermont (2), Wellesley (2).</p>

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<p>Juicy...I am replying to you because my children also attended an elite New York City independent school, so I understand where you are coming from. While you will have a lot of competition from your classmates who are vying for spots in top colleges and universities, I think that you may be underestimating your chances of getting into those schools you listed. You must, however, work on picking up those SAT scores, by optimally, 100 points, to that 2150 level. The fact that you attend Dalton is a huge plus in your corner. Secondly, you are a first generation applicant, of Hispanic origin. This is another plus for you. Your ECs look good, although I would suggest trying to attain leadership positions in a couple of those clubs in which you participate. One "C" grade should not be too detrimental. Just make sure you keep it to just that one, if possible.
If you can accomplish this, during your first semester, senior year, I am not so sure that I would assess your chances the same way that you do. I think Skidmore would be very interested, ED., and maybe even RD. Same is true for Kenyon, Reed, Lewis and Clark, and Syracuse. In fact, I think these would be RD schools for you. The question is how to deal with Bowdoin, Bates, and Colby. Talk to your advisor. I am not so sure that if you do not raise those SAT scores, that one of these might not be a better ED choice for you than Kenyon, unless, of course, that truly is your first choice amongst those on your list. Do not underestimate yourself, nor get demoralized. Do not listen to the other kids who may have higher scores than you do. You are in a very competitive environment, indigenous to the culture of your elite prep school, and the others like it in New York. Your situation is more or less unique, comparatively speaking, so it is difficult to get advice from others who do not understand this specific kind of school culture.
Check out what I have said to you with your college advisor, and see if he/she does or does not agree with me. But, by all means, work on those scores. I think you will then do very well. Good luck.</p>

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<p>good chances</p>

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<p>Gabriellaah...thank you so much.</p>

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<p>bumper......</p>