chances for athlete/debater

Chance Me / Match Me!
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<p>herrow</p>

<p>I attend the second most competitive public school in Washington state.</p>

<p>gpa- 3.45uw 3.8 w
(6 ap’s and 4 honors classes so weighted is close to a 3.9)
sat 2110 (760 v 680m 670w)
im also taking the september act and will likely send in that score rather than the sat.</p>

<p>EC’s</p>

<p>Partial debate record:
National Honors
-One of only 18 debaters (nationwide) selected to attend the Team USA qualifier
-Member of Team USA A-Team. (One of only five 1st team All-Americans)
-Team USA will represent the United States in the Pan-American Championships (at Southern California), European World Championships (in Germany), and the World Schools Debate Championships (in South Korea) as well as in exhibitions throughout the United Kingdom.
-One of the nation’s first 25 to fully qualify for the Tournament of Champions.
-Finished 5th out of juniors nationwide at the TOC.
-Two time national qualifier in debate (finishing 27th Junior Year)
-Invited to 8 round robin tournaments in 5 states
-Member of top lab at Victory Briefs @ UCLA 2006 and varsity member in 2005 (receiving a merit based scholarship to the camp)
-One of only 6 debaters (out of 300) to participate in camp-wide demonstration debate.

  • National Forensic League speech and debate All American
    State Honors
    -Washington state co-champion of Lincoln-Douglas debate.(first junior to with the 3A state title since 2001)
    -First speaker honors at state (first junior to receive award since late 1990’s)
    -First Junior in history to win 3A title, Top Speaker award, and clear as top seed at the state tournament.
    -First and only debater from my school to qualify to TOC or Nationals in debate.
    -Only junior from Washington state to qualify for “the tournament of champions”.
    -First debater in Washington to fully qualify to the TOC
    -Only debater to clear at all three “Washington TOC bid tournaments”
    -2 time team captain
    -During tenure the team has grown from 7 members to 40 members.
    -Put in about 300 hours teaching teammates how to debate.
    -Received “top speaker” awards at numerous tournaments
    -2nd at state in extemporaneous speaking (2006) 2nd (2005)
    -3rd at state in impromptu speaking. (2006) 4th (2005)
    -3A Washington state record for both impromptu and extemp state bids (8 and 6 respectively)
    -Only junior in recent memory to win the University of Puget Sound’s Charles Battin award for outstanding speaker. (Most prestigious speaker award in the state) </p>

<p>Student Government positions held:
-7th grade class senator (one of only four)
-8th grade class senator (one of only four)
-9th grade council representative
-Freshman class vice-president
-Sophomore class president
-Junior class president
-Senior class president
-During my three years as class president I have lead the c/o 2007 to huge financial success. We are far and away the wealthiest class in history of the school due to our vast amounts of fund-raising and dedicated leaders. </p>

<p>Independent Academic Study:
-Took sixty hours of arabic composition at the Seattle Academy of Languages (Spring 2004)
-Practiced arabic speaking skills independently for 15 hours/week (April-June 2004)
-Enrolled in independent Old Testament studies with local biblical doctorate holder Steven Swanson. Six hours/week. (September 2005-May 2006)
-Completed an American Studies honors portfolio (wrote five essays on American historical figures and their influence on contemporary America) six hours/week. (March-June 2006)
-Read from Frank and Bernanke’s Principles of Macroeconomics in preparation for May 2007’s AP testing. Four hours/week (September 2006-May 2007)*
-Read from Kleiner, Mamiya and Tansey’s Gardner’s Art Through the Ages in preparation for May 2007’s AP testing. Three hours/week (September 2006-May 2007)*
-Read from Mahler’s Comparative Politics: An Institutional and Cross-national Approach in preparation for May 2007’s AP testing. Four hours/week (September 2006-May 2007)*</p>

<ul>
<li>I met with a HS faculty member once-twice a week and we would have a seminar or lecture on the material I had just read. The times given are for reading, seminars and homework/week.</li>
</ul>

<p>Baseball:
-Member of Peninsula Baseball Academy (18U All-Kitsap County Team) since age 13.
-Member of American Legion Post 68 Baseball Club (18U All-Kitsap Team) since age 15.
-Member of the 13U, 14U, 15U and 16U Traveling Teams (City-Wide All-Star Team)
-Led the 14U, 15U and 16U clubs in Batting Average and On-Base Percentage.
-Attendee at multiple baseball clinics (both pitching and infield)
-Awarded “first team honors” at both Stubbs’ Infield Clinic and Bainbridge Infield Clinic.
-Led the Freshman team in batting average (.535)
-Hit safely in all 8 Metro Division games sophomore year.
-Was an offensive leader in multiple categories (batting average, slugging percentage, RBI’s, Doubles, Hits, On-Base Percentage)</p>

<p>Tennis:
-One of only two individuals in the Metro Division to finish the 2006 regular season with an undefeated record. (11-0)

  • Played as high as number 4 for my high school squad.
    -Finished 3rd in the Metro Tournament (Greater Seattle Area) knocking off the 2nd 3rd and 10th seeds at the tournament.
    -Finished with the highest winning percentage on the tennis team, (14-1, .9333) dropping only 2 sets all season.</p>

<p>Running/Cross Country:
-Member of xc team’s “500 Club” (ran 500 miles over the summer)
-Ran number two consistently for the xc Squad.
-Averaged nearly 50 Miles a week in pre-season training
-Trained for and competed in the Seattle Half-Marathon
-Trained for and will compete in the Toe-Jam half-marathon
-Was a top-finisher for my age group in the 2004 and 2005 Winter Solstice 5K’s in seattle.</p>

<p>heres my list. can y’all rate mah chances at the schools.</p>

<p>thanks again.</p>

<li>upenn</li>
<li>uchi </li>
<li>Northwestern</li>
<li>Vanderbilt</li>
<li>Emory</li>
<li>gwu</li>
<li>bc</li>
<li>usc
9 uwashington (honors)</li>
</ol>

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<p>are you going to get recruited to play baseball or tennis?</p>

<p>This is really hard, because your stats arent the greatest (theyre still good, but for some of those schools you will be in the bottom half of applicants with a 3.45 and 2110), but your ECs are so good that they seem to be able to make up for the low GPA and somewhat low SATs. Also, you did take a hard courseload.</p>

<p>UPenn- slight reach
UChicago- match/slight reach
Northwestern- slight reach
Vandy- match
Emory- match
GW- safe match
BC- match
USC- safe match/match
UW- safety (not sure how hard the honors program is to get into)</p>

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<p>im trying to for both. the problem for baseball is that i took this past spring off to play tennis. (our team was very very good and i wouldnt get great playing time and i also was coming off a choulder injury that wouldnt have allowed me to pitch at top form until late april) but i think i have a fair shot at getting a couple nods for baseball. at the least an offer to fly out to tryout. </p>

<p>should i make an effort to interview at any of the schools? im a good people person</p>

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<p>I suggest that you try to apply to more Ivies than simply UPenn...those EC's and awards are mind-blowing. GPA and SAT (to a lesser degree) are obviously your only negatives. Do try to get recruited for debate or your sports...good luck!</p>

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<p>Actually, how ever did you find time to do all your EC's, in addition to your classes?</p>

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<p>you have to be on crack to say that UPenn is a "slight reach" with a 3.9W/3.45UW - 2110... I mean, this guy is obviously a very solid applicant with very solid chances, but even for the best of the best Penn is never definitively a "slight" reach...</p>

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<p>I am definitely not on crack, what experience do you have with admissions to tell me that im wrong? there are very few people with ECs this impressive, and UPenn I believe is the second easiest ivy to get into (once you discard the stats for wharton, penn is easier than brown, dartmouth, and columbia). A 3.45 GPA wont stop penn from taking the OP. SATs arent a problem at all.</p>

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<p>make sure you request an interview at uchicago, meaning get the app in early before all the interviewers are booked. I know penn also has interviews, but im not sure how the process works since i didnt apply there. BC doesnt have them, not sure about the other schools.</p>

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<p>there's a distinction between the possibility of him being accepted (of which there is a solid possibility) and a statistical assessment of that possibility--by saying it's a slight reach, you're talking ~70% chance of acceptance, which is a bit silly since Penn's admit rate is around 18% to begin with, and even though his EC's are remarkable his academic stats are weak. the OP is my friend and i'm not trying to say he doesn't have a better shot than many who will be applying to penn, there is no magical hook that makes him go from "solid reach" to a "slight reach." (almost nobody is in that category) but now that i've clarified what I mean i think this argument is semantic and stupid, so this is all i'm going to say.</p>

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<p>a slight reach means 30% or so, not 70%, thats a safe match</p>

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<p>Might want to add Duke and good schools with strong athletics like Holy Cross or Bucknell. HC has a brand new multi-million dollar baseball stadium also used by minor league team. Holy Cross is also SAT optional with a very strong alumni network.</p>

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<p>so i guess the disagreement is semantic...nevermind then.</p>

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<p>should my essay try to reflect my dedication to debate and how much the activity has meant to me or would a better approach be to look to another ec (like student government or baseball) and show that Im multi-faceted</p>

<p>thanks</p>

<p>anyone else have relative chances for me.</p>

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<p>I'm curious. What, exactly, is the second most compitetive public high school in Washington State?</p>

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<p>the OP attends Bainbridge HS, but I have no clue where the "second most competitive" came from... considering they didn't even make the (admittedly absurd) newseek rankings.</p>

<p>at the same time, there are a couple better schools that I can think of off the top of my hat that send more kids to top schools per capita: </p>

<p>Mercer Island HS
Bellevue HS
Newport HS</p>

<p>but regardless, Bainbridge is definitely up there in terms of the best public schools, but I don't know about this "second" business.</p>

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<p>*off the top of my head</p>

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<p>its based off of state wasl score testing results. admittedly bainbridge doesnt send a ton of kids to ivys (4 this past year) but it does produce numerous competitive students and i would assume a few adcoms have heard of bainbridge or know students that have applied at select universities</p>

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<p>does anyone have other views on my chances?</p>

<p>upenn
dartmouth
cornell
brown
northwestern
uchi
vanderbilt
emory
usc
bc
gwu
uw honors</p>

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<p>bump:</p>

<p>what are my chances at Duke university?</p>

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<p>wow this is weird, I'm a Washington debater and I think I've heard about you lol... is your name Greg?</p>