<p>any one know the general chances of being amitted RD for ED1 deferrals?</p>
<p>I think its pretty good...or at least better than at many other comparable schools that virtually reject all deferees. Midd (and Bowdoin, but Midd Eepecially), for whatever reason, receives more ED1 applications than peer school, and therefore has a lower ED acceptance rate. Last year, only 170 ED1 applications out of 642 were admitted...so abut 25%. I don't recall any other top LAC (including AWS) reporting an ED rate of less than 30% last year. This year, the school newspaper reported that 685 ED applications were received by the first of novmember. More have probably come in since then, which could put the total number of ED1 applications over 700, and the acceptance rate may hover around 20% this year. I don't think any other top 10 lac has ever received more than 650 ED1 applications. Granted, midd is slighltly larger than some of its competitors, but even Wesleyan, whose freshman class has 150 more students than Midd's, received only 378 ED1 applications this year. Midd is therefore forced to defer many many competitive applicants who are qualified to get in in the RD round. Because they have showed interest by applying ED, the school knows there is a high chance that they will attend upon acceptance they thus have an edge over other students with similar qualifications. I read somewhere that nearly 30% of ED deferees a few years ago were admitted RD. Many are eventually admitted as Febs, however.</p>
<p>thanks Me2</p>
<p>BTW, just found this interesting Midd web site with scrolling stats banner:
<a href="http://community.middlebury.edu/%7Ephinney/welcome/%5B/url%5D">http://community.middlebury.edu/~phinney/welcome/</a>
....welcoming accepted applicants (prior to enrollment commitments) for last year (class of 2010)...has ED1 & ED2 stats (apps, acceptances, broken down by Sep & Feb admits), as well as notable attributes of the accepted class, like 14 oboe players (looks like only 1 enrolled as referenced on the profile page <a href="http://www.middlebury.edu/admissions/applying/classprofile/%5B/url%5D">http://www.middlebury.edu/admissions/applying/classprofile/</a> ), class presidents (106 admitted, 38 enrolled), plus a scary stat: 478 admits had an 800 on at least one of their SATs....that's about one third of all admitted!</p>
<p>Looks like ED2 acceptance rate for Sep admits is on par with RD rate (20-21% once you remove the ED1 numbers). ED1 acceptance rate is 26% for Sep admits, 31% for Sep & Feb combined.</p>
<p>haha yeah thats where I got my info. but I think the class profile online may have some mistakes. There are at least 3 oboe players in the class of '10 here.</p>
<p>That's interesting. I applied ED 1 so all of that information is making me very nervous. However, Valerie Demong, the assistant director of admissions, visited my school last month and told my counselor that they're hoping to fill about 40% of the class (admitted students, I think) with ED applicants! She also reported that they've had a rise in applications and that every year it gets more competitive....But I've also seen data from college books that shows that Midd has accepted 35-40% of ED applicants, so that makes me hopeful, but basically I am freaking out and cannot wait until next Saturday at 8 am!</p>
<p>ED acceptance rate: 35%
Non-ED acceptance rate: 22%
Difference in acceptance rate: 13%
Freshmen enrolled through ED: 47% </p>
<p>This is good news, right? Thoughts?</p>
<p>unfortunately, those stats are from two years ago when Midd used to (every year) take half its class through ED. The New Dean of Admissions is trying to cut down the portion of the class admitted via ED.</p>
<p>:(</p>
<p>According to Princeton Review, Middlebury is the 14th hardest college to get into: <a href="http://www.princetonreview.com/college/research/rankings/rankingDetails.asp?CategoryID=1&TopicID=10%5B/url%5D">http://www.princetonreview.com/college/research/rankings/rankingDetails.asp?CategoryID=1&TopicID=10</a></p>
<p>I was surprised that Amherst (#18) and Dartmouth (#19) were lower than Midd...</p>
<p>Princeton Review's rankings are notoriously inaccurate. Amherst and Dartmouth are significantly more difficult to get into than Middlebury. Middlebury also uses certain techniques to make themselves appear more selective than they actually are. I do not mean to insult Middlebury, which is indeed a fine school.</p>
<p>That is what I thought about Amherst and Dartmouth...thank you, I am now less worried! Do you happen to know more about those certain techniques or about how Middlebury is proceeding this year with the rise in ED apps?</p>
<p>the "techniques" include the Feb admits, which is pretty unusual. Only Sep admits are counted in Midd's admissions stats (at least those bantered about in the public realm), but the application pool includes ALL applications, for Sep & Feb.....hence the Sep amission rate is driven down statistically. If ALL admits were included, the admissions rate number would be higher, i.e., less selective.</p>
<p>[s07....those rates I mentioned in post 3 are the most recent....RD: figure 20-21% chance for getting in for September; ED1....figure 25-27% for Sep admit.....these numbers are significantly lower than just a few years ago.]</p>
<p>Midd reports 22% for Sep admits from ED & RD combined for last year's crop (class of '10), and 24% for the Sep & Febs combined.
<a href="http://www.middlebury.edu/NR/rdonlyres/7263728D-2A5D-4E85-8954-8DC88A58BCF2/0/admissions06.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.middlebury.edu/NR/rdonlyres/7263728D-2A5D-4E85-8954-8DC88A58BCF2/0/admissions06.pdf</a></p>
<p>This year's USNews uses the 2005-2006 Common Data Set as a basis for much of the college-specific statistics. USnews reports the fall 2005 (last year) admission rate for Midd as 24%. Calculation directly from the CDS ( <a href="http://www.middlebury.edu/NR/rdonlyres/F5D55D7F-AD70-45D3-8068-15E2E28D1B8E/0/CDS2005_2006.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.middlebury.edu/NR/rdonlyres/F5D55D7F-AD70-45D3-8068-15E2E28D1B8E/0/CDS2005_2006.pdf</a> ) yields 23.6% which was rounded to 24% in USNews. The CDS reports (section C1) 5254 applicants & 1241 acceptances. Now, Midd's own recently published admissions data ( <a href="http://www.middlebury.edu/NR/rdonlyres/7263728D-2A5D-4E85-8954-8DC88A58BCF2/0/admissions06.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.middlebury.edu/NR/rdonlyres/7263728D-2A5D-4E85-8954-8DC88A58BCF2/0/admissions06.pdf</a> ) show the same # of applications, but 1301 acceptances, 60 more than reported on their CDS & used for admissions rate % in USNews. The extra 60 admits takes the rate up 1% rounded, to 25%. OK, I have no clue why there is a 1% bust, but perhaps it has something to do with creative definitions of waitlist admits or something like that, or maybe its just a mistake? But the bigger "technique" if you ask me is the Feb thing, because USNews based Midd's selectivity on 24%, 4% more favorable than the 28% combined Sep & Feb admit rate. By no means saying Midd is using this Feb thing to manipulate the admit stats, but the fact that Midd has a significant Feb admission practice makes the admissions stats somewhat apples & oranges when comparing to other schools.</p>
<p>There is also early decision round 2. Plus, selective test reporting.</p>
<p>Middlebury used to only report the avg SAT of students who submitted the SAT (1430) rather than the avg of all enrolled students (1349).</p>
<p>Yeah, and the first year they report the SAT I figures for all students (regardless of whether they were used in admissions), they rise to number 5 in U.S. News. Go Midd!</p>
<p>Sooo was anyone else deferred? Feels like I'm the only one in this forum. Anyone have more a have specific idea regarding chances of RD admission now that the ED decisions have been made? Would greatly appreciate any help, and congratulations to all the successful EDers! (I'm SO jealous of you all)</p>
<p>s07-- well, I'd say the majority of ED1's were deferred...misery loves company! But I suspect the sting is still too fresh for many to post. My S was deferred also, & I know of one other deferred student from our area...we thought she was a recruited athlete, but guess not or perhaps was but didn't make the academic bar.</p>
<p>without some inside info, I don't think we'll learn much more here regarding chances...just figure that, statistically speaking, your chances are no better than all other RDers...say 20%...but there may be some mitigation because you chose Midd as #1....that fact may work as a tie breaker, but I suspect no more.</p>
<p>I suggest, as I have suggested with my S, to put some real effort into finding some other schools that fit you, if you already haven't...they are definitely out there, & put your all into the applications. After your ap's are in, I'd take Dean Clagett up on his deferral letter words should any goods news come your way between now and March or so: "you should feel free to send us any new information that may help us in our evaluation of your candidacy." Showing continued interest (IF you are still truly interested), especially in the face of disappointment, can only clarify your true self to Middlebury, for better or for worse. From my gray-haired vantage point, putting your all into it, regardless of outcome, is ultimately the most important thing to do.</p>
<p>Good luck s07 & congrats to all of you that made it.</p>
<p>Sorry to hear that your son was deferred, Papa Chicken. Best of luck in RD...</p>
<p>Here are the stats from this year's ED 1 round:</p>
<p>Total applications: 688
September Admits: 188
Feb Admits: 33
September acceptance rate: 27%
Overall ED 1 acceptance rate: 32%</p>
<p>Team captaincies: 99 (!)
800 SATs: 54
Non New England: 66%
Nations: 10
States: 35</p>
<p>it's worth noting that one person who is the captain of two sports teams is counted as two team captaincies. Most of the tipped athletes are very proficient at two sports and therefore make up a large percentage of that 99. The school isn't as jock dominated as those stats suggest.</p>
<p>I wrote that mainly in response to your "secret way" post because I anticipated some sort of bitter comment when you saw the 99 team captaincies. I'm sorry your son was deferred. Who knows why these things happen...nearly 500 other early applicants share his sentiments. but as i've said before I think midd is known for being particularly generous when admitting deferrees in the RD round. I think they are also known for flat out rejecting a large portion of the ED pool. A deferral means they were very interested in his application and want to return to it. I wish him all the best.</p>
<p>Me2-- you are confusing the imposter PC with just a few posts....the one who started that silly thread you mentioned...for the real PC, me, who has a son, but who remains respectful here.</p>