chances for Harvard SCEA, Yale, and other top schools

<p>Chance me please?</p>

<p>SAT I (breakdown): 2290 (770CR, 800M, 720W)
SAT II: 780 Lit, 800 French, will take Math II and Chem in Oct.</p>

<p>Now for the complicated part. I go to a French/international school (dual citizenship), so we do a bilingual curriculum which also follows the instructions from the French Ministry of Education and prepares for the French baccalaureate.
Grades are on a scale of 0 - 20, but rarely go to the extremes (they tend to be within like 4 and 16, with a 4 being absolutely horrible, a 10 the passing grade, and a 16 really good). 15 = A+, more or less
My average for the past 3 years has been around 17.5-18.5, and I've never had an average under 15 in any subject</p>

<p>We take mostly French courses, which means no APs or Honors. The school does offer AP French and AP Spanish, but not the actual courses (for native speakers, which means everyone takes French and a few take Spanish, I was actually the first non-native to take it); I got a 5 on both tests.</p>

<p>In 9-10th grades, we have very little choices as to what subjects we take, so we all take French literature, English literature (eng.), History/Geography, Social Studies (eng.), math, physics/chemistry, biology/geology, economics in 10th, either Spanish or German (I take Spanish), plus Latin as an option, which I take. Every subject is taught in French, except for the languages, and the two subjects in English.
In 11-12th grade, we choose whether we want to concentrate in economics (ES), or math and science (S). I chose S, which means no more economics, but more math, physics, chem, bio, as well as French (only in 11th), Spanish, history, English and Latin, and philosophy in 12th.</p>

<p>At the end of 11th grade we pass the baccalaureate exams in French (oral and written), as well as TPE, which is a yearlong research project that culminates in some sort of “production” (website, video, book, etc.). I made a scientific magazine in which I talked about bioethics (prenatal diagnosis). We then have to present it to a jury, talk about our thesis and our research, etc, for ½ h. I got a 14 on the written (disappointed...), a 19 on the oral (! so happy :) ), an 18 on TPE (I don’t know whether colleges can see this). All the other exams we pass at the end of 12th grade.</p>

<p>ECs:
Editor-in-chief of my school’s literary magazine since 11th (in 9th and 10th was editor-in-chief of the yearbook, but I decided I preferred this job instead)
3rd Dan black belt in Tae kwon do, as well as an instructor, been to South Korea for international competitions (two bronze medals), and one silver at nationals (but this was a little while ago, I haven’t been as dedicated this past year)
Volunteer at the local hospital on Sundays
Work as a volunteer for an organization that provides pro-bono surgeries for kids born with cleft lip or microtia (I was actually born w/o a right year, so this means something to me), this past summer did the Tour du Mont Blanc as a fundraiser
Math club
Won a scholarship to study Spanish in Barcelona for a month my 9th grade year
Spent a month studying Spanish in Paraguay (went to school & worked on the family farm)
10 days in Bolivia (exchange trip) organized by my school, we had to apply and everything
2 internships, one short one at Harvard School of Public Health, and another, month-long at Cornell Medical School
Helped build 2 houses in Nicaragua in October of 10th grade (same process as for the Bolivia trip)
Sat the “Concours general de francais,” French national competition comprised of a six-hour essay on one quotation, usually about French literature. Only those in the top 8% of their graduating class are eligible to be nominated. First student to be nominated from my school. Didn’t win anything though :(</p>

<p>Hooks: None, sort of a legacy at Columbia (grandfather, uncle went to graduate school there), in terms of hardship, my ear + my dad was run over by a car last year, and it was really serious, luckily he’s almost entirely recovered now => I don’t know whether colleges care about this</p>

<p>Will be applying for financial aid</p>

<p>prospective major: comparative literature, I realize that sometimes it's under a different name (harvard, yale) and that some schools on my list don't even offer it (hem hem Hopkins), but it's not at all definite + hopkins doesn't make it too hard to design your own major, so it's ok</p>

<p>College list:
Harvard (SCEA)
UVA (EA) (an exception to the SC part of SCEA is any public school, even though I live in NY, which is part of the reason I'm applying early to Harvard and not Yale, which doesn't have this exception)
Yale
Brown (PLME)
Chicago
Stanford
Swarthmore
Williams</p>

<p>Columbia
Johns Hopkins
Middlebury
Wesleyan</p>

<p>Cornell
McGill
Michigan
Northwestern (HPME)
Tufts </p>

<p>(I’m only applying to the colleges in 2nd group if I don’t get in to Harvard, and the colleges in the 3rd group if I don’t get in to Harvard nor UVA)</p>

<p>Sorry it turned out to be so long :P</p>

<p>Cut your list down, also it is really scattered right now. You have large universities and tiny liberal arts colleges. You have schools on both the east coast and west coast, public and private, schools that are known for different things and so on. Identify what you want in a school and then come back with a shortened list.</p>

<p>Yeah I know it’s scattered. Actually when I started visiting colleges last summer, I specifically started w/ a large school, a small one, a city one, a rural one, to see what type I was looking for, but I loved quite a bit of them, cuz I guess I could fit in anywhere. :stuck_out_tongue:
Also, my list is not too long, cuz it will all be based on where I get in EA. Obviously I’m not betting on Harvard, but hopefully I’ll be accepted to UVA, which would mean I’d be applying to 10 colleges, which is significant, but Midd and Wes don’t have supps and I don’t mind doing the work.
If I don’t get UVA, I would have to revamp my list anyway, and I’m prepared to do that.
Thanks for your advice :slight_smile:
Anyone else?</p>

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<p>So yeah, I still haven’t really decided what I want in a school, I will be doing overnights so I might get inspired, but otherwise I’ll have to decide sometime this year. We’ll see --</p>

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<p>Your test scores and grades are up to par. I also think that your success internationally in tae kwon do will draw the attention of adcoms. Your other ECs are great as well.
Harvard, Yale, and Stanford are all crap shoots I guess; you just never know what they want…
Well, we’ll know about Harvard come December 15th! Best of luck</p>

<p>Uva doesn’t notify you about EA admission until after all the other applications are due so you will have to apply to your 3rd group anyway unless you get into Harvard.</p>

<p>Really? I’ll check on the UVA website just in case, but this means I’ll have to change my gameplan… :frowning:
Any ideas for that?
Thanks for the info dragonflygarden</p>

<p>Also, could anyone do a reach/match/safety, and point out any weaknesses in my app?
Thanks</p>

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<p>Bump…</p>

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<p>Hey Frosh2013, I’m in the same case as you.
I’m half Swiss half Japanese, I have lived in France for the past year and I have my French Baccalaureate Mention Tr</p>

<p>@hunbun</p>

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<p>Cut us some slack! Getting a mention TB used to be a great distinction 30 years ago. Now it is given out like candy! In some high schools in Paris over 50% of students get a mention TB. It has completely lost its meaning. </p>

<p>Even though your 17.3 is higher than the minimum for a TB distinction it is still less than the 18 minimum required to even apply to Sciences Po. So again nothing especially unique. </p>

<p>A 15/20 is NOT equivalent to a 4.2 GPA. At best a 3.5 UW. </p>

<p>You have no special academic awards such as a Concours General distinction which could set you apart. “Participated in” unfortunately won’t get you very far. </p>

<p>Especially since you would be applying as an international student needing financial aid, your list of schools would be restricted to the ultra-selective Harvard, Yale and Princeton. Brown is not need blind to internationals. Outside of NYU Abu Dhabi, your chances RD at any of these schools are essentially zero. Wait until grad school and apply then. There are a lot more spots for internationals as well as scholarships.</p>

<p>@cellardweller :
Those are official numbers :
Out of all the students who received the Bac this year (2012) in FRANCE, 1.89% of them got Mention TB. (4377 TB out of 230 989 simple BAC - you do the maths)</p>

<p>So don’t tell me mention TB is given out to everybody. And especially for ES people, where you CAN’T and I did well say C A N ’ T have a 20/20 in Economics, Sociology, History, Geography, Philosophy (exept Mahts - those are the biggest subjects) : 17.3 is a pretty good score. My teacher told me that in his 25 years of career, I earned the highest grade on an ES bac than any other student he taught. Having an 18 or 19 in S, is hard but much easier than in ES (you can get away with having 20/20 in physics, maths, maybe biology-- cause those are scientific right or wrong questions). Humanities or social sciences are never right or wrong… Let alone philosophy. So points for a 4h handwritten essay test are a lot to do with the teacher’s subjectivity. Trust me I never heard of ANYBODY getting a 20/20 on a humanities test. The teachers just don’t grade above 18. </p>

<p>And for my GPA - I’ve taken the official US-FR converter from an official institute (found on google)
<a href=“http://www.ac-grenoble.fr/cite.scolaire.internationale/Peda/Discipli/Anglais/IMG/US_grade_grid_page.doc[/url]”>http://www.ac-grenoble.fr/cite.scolaire.internationale/Peda/Discipli/Anglais/IMG/US_grade_grid_page.doc&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Anyways, yes NYUAD is my top choice. But I still hope I will get accepted to the Ivies.</p>

<p>Harvard (SCEA)
Yale
Brown (PLME)
Chicago
Stanford
Swarthmore
Williams
Columbia</p>

<p>^^^^^^^HIGH REACHES</p>

<p>UVA - high match
Johns Hopkins- high match
Middlebury- match
Wesleyan- match</p>

<p>Cornell- low reach
McGill - IDK
Michigan - math
Northwestern (HPME) - high read
Tufts - match</p>

<p>You need some safeties in case u do not get accepted to UVA.</p>