chances for harvard

<p>hi! these are my friend's stats:
Sat: 1560
gpa: 94
extracurriculars:
violin for 7 years
symphony orchestra, nationally competitive, itzhak perlmann summer camp</p>

<p>Anyways, her musical accomplishments sort of intimidate me, but I am rooting for her to make it into harvard, so what are her chances?</p>

<p>Thanks for the input!</p>

<p>That 94 is eating away at her chances for Harvard. The violin thing's pretty good, but the SAT and GPA are lackluster, just like mine. I'm really not sure.</p>

<p>94 AND 1560! lackluster?</p>

<p>Her resume is incredibly limited. </p>

<p>Unless she's truly a musical prodigy, she won't be getting in.</p>

<p>well, doesn't being in a symphony make her prodigal enough? and the camp is also very prestigious you know. Anyways she has other activities, those are just her main ones. Are you a Harvard acceptee? If so, or even if not, why do you think she won't make it? I thought that it was all about making a deep impact in one particular field, not being well rounded these days. Anyways keep the posts coming. Thanks everyone. She is a really good friend of mine.</p>

<p>prodigious, you mean ;-p. sorry... i just remembered the parable of the prodigal son and i'm sure you didn't mean that your friend is wasteful...</p>

<p>"nationally competitive"
Does this mean she has won awards at national concerto competitions?</p>

<p>yea she got a couple of seconds i think. anyways come on people post her chances.</p>

<p>i strongly doubt she is a musical prodigy, espescially since she's only been playing the violin for 7 years...think about how many good violinists there are! if she's in all state orchestra, there are still 2500 violinists like herself, and many good violinists don't bother to join...her 7 years music may be a plus but it definately doesn't separate her from the crowd...</p>

<p>i have similar stats as she - close to perfect GPA, top 5% of class, 1550, 12 years violin, awards and all state... (not national though, i highly highly doubt someone with 7 years experience can be in the national honors orchestra, which is a step above the all state level), plus some varsity sports and blah blah blah but was deferred EA... anyway hopefully we'll both get in RD...good luck to her</p>

<p>Actually. its not all state, its a professional symphony. she is Canadian. Anyways good luck to you.</p>

<p>I guess I should also mention that only 37 people from around the world are accepted every year.</p>

<p>at the camp.</p>

<p>well...IF she's a member of a professional symphony, then with those stats I'm also sure she's going to be admitted...but if shes that good, she should apply to music schools and go pro instead of applying to harvard unless shes trying for Harvard/NEC</p>

<p>yea the perlman camp is supposed to be pretty good... i wouldnt know cuz ive never been there but i mean, its run by perlman himself so the standards should be high</p>

<p>as for the person who pmed me for stats, here they are, nothing too special</p>

<p>1550
790, 750, 750, 740, 720
3.98 top 5% dunno rank for sure, top 10 in school
violin 12 years, random youth orchestras, all state 3 years, minor music awards (honorable mention at some local concerto competitions, nothing special, definately not going to pursue music career)
varsity soccer, varsity track
AP Scholar w/ Distinction, AIME Qualifier, school orchestra concertmaster, NHS Treasurer, Science Olympiad Coordinator, newspaper...etc..., lots of community service, work at job 4 hours afterschool 2 days a week...</p>

<p>~ i think i was close to getting in...got a second interview after my alumni one but was deferred anyway...</p>

<p>"the SAT and GPA are lackluster"</p>

<p>???? since when is a 1560 "lackluster"??? and though i admit that the 94 is not something would be impressed with, assuming its unweighted it certainly is high enough to put her in the running.</p>

<p>Nice stats Stostokavich..
I'm kinda like you except i dont do sports. Only math, music and science. Will the lack of sports will hurt me?</p>

<p>it depends on how deep of an impact you have made in math, science, and music. If its deep then you should have a chance. Anyways........BUMP.......</p>

<p>...How deep?</p>

<p>nationals, really really prestigious internationally known youth orchestra, symphony, i guess, or maybe you have a real passion for it and you play it really well, send in a tape if that is the case or contact the music department. the admission folks aren't always too knowledgable about music. Good luck!</p>

<p>Actually, I think she'll get in. National achievement is national achievement, and not everyone has it by any means. If she actually placed in a national concerto competition, I would say that's national achievement at a rare level even for Harvard. Even if it weren't, this girl also has a 1560 and a 94. Those stats are nothing to sneeze at, even for someone without national recognition in music. If she could get a few stellar scores on APs and/or SAT-IIs, I would say she'd have a 95% chance of getting into Harvard (that is, if she really got "a couple of seconds" at national concerto competitions.) She should try to write seriously subtle, probing, sensitive and interesting essays, not just crap about the joys and thrills of performing violin. Then she might even be a shoe-in.</p>

<p>Hey claret quilty, why can't she write about playing the violin? And I really don't think anyone has a 95% chance at Harvard even with national recognition and all. </p>

<p>Why doesn't anyone think the symphony orchestra is a big achievement? I certainly think so.</p>