<p>Ethnicity?</p>
<p>Seems awesome. Good luck to you.</p>
<p>Return the favor, and
Chance back please? =)
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/954853-hypsm-chances-if-you-also-applying-you-better-chance-me-im-pretty-competitive.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/954853-hypsm-chances-if-you-also-applying-you-better-chance-me-im-pretty-competitive.html</a></p>
<p>Not an URM.</p>
<p>So here is the current list:</p>
<p>Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
Columbia
Penn
Cornell
Brown
Univ of Chicago
Duke
Wash U
Hopkins or Tufts
Univ of Mich (hopefully a complete safety)</p>
<p>Sorry Dartmouth - I just can’t see being out in the middle of NH.</p>
<p>(Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford) – reaches, except yale, since you have legacy, i think you’ll have an easy time getting in if you EA to yale.
Columbia – low reach with your academics,
Penn – low reach
Cornell – match/in
Brown --match/in
Univ of Chicago --match/in, though essay matter a lot for them, but i don’t think they care about act writing, which might be good for you.
Duke – match/in
Wash U – if they don’t yield protect you’re in
Hopkins or Tufts --if they don’t yield protect, you’re in
Univ of Mich --in</p>
<p>The only problems are ACT writing and your relative lack of leadership positions.</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/954601-hypsm-hopeful-chances-2.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/954601-hypsm-hopeful-chances-2.html</a></p>
<p>Cubsfan15, I think you should add a few safeties just in case. Almost all of the schools you listed are Top 20 schools. At those kind of schools, the admissions cycle is extremely tricky - there’s a chance you might get in or there’s a good chance you just might get flat out rejected. I think you should also thing about ED-ing at one of the better schools, one where you’re not sure whether you can get in or not. I’m assuming money is not an issues (?).</p>
<p>ACT is good, rank/GPA is good, number of APs is average, EC’s show passion but not much leadership and impact.</p>
<p>Yale - low reach if you apply EA
HPS - mid reach
Columbia/Penn/Brown/UChicago/Duke/WUSTL - high match/low reach
Cornell/Hopkins/Tufts - high match
UMichigan* - match</p>
<p>*At University of Michigan it depends on what major you are applying for. If you will be applying undeclared or choosing a relatively uncompetitive major then it is a match. If, on the other hand, you are applying pre-admit to Ross I will have to say that is a low to mid reach.</p>
<p>The problem with your Application for Harvard, Stanford, Princeton is that you dont have something that really sets you apart from all the other applicants. Sure, your number 1 in your class, have a 4.0 GPA and 36 ACT, but so does aloooot of all the other applicants. Like for example, what could’ve set you apart is president of NHS, winning or placing high in state level or national level competitions (Like AMC, Math league, etc) and others. About your Extra-curriculars- Although you have done them every year in high school, which is good, this does not show to much passion for one area. For example, my ECs for when i apply to college will be Academic league (4 years and Pres.), Math League (4 years) SOS (4 years) NHS (3 years) and English Honor Society(3 years) Baseball (4 years). So my extracurriculars are mainly focused on academics and learning.</p>
<p>I don’t think we should call any of HYPS anything less than a plain old reach for him. Yes–he’s legacy at Yale, but none of those schools look fondly on students with perfect test scores/grades and super-generic ECs. (They’re not bad–they’re just not distinctive. Essays will help.) I’d guess that he has maybe a 30% chance of getting into one of them, and maybe twice the national average’s shot at Yale (so…18%?).
H Reach
Y Reach (apply SCEA if you can–that helps legacies)
P Reach
S Reach
Columbia Mid-reach
Penn Mid-reach
Brown Mid or low reach
Duke Low reach
U Chicago Match
Cornell Match
JHU Match
Tufts Low match
WUSTL Low match
UMich Probably a safety, you’re right, but you need more than one in case early admissions don’t go your way.</p>
<p>A flurry of activity today!</p>
<p>JoshBryon - Your point is well taken. I think I’ll add another safety.</p>
<p>HKToUS - Mich would be as an undeclared. </p>
<p>Cortana - I should have included NHS in my ECs as well. (I don’t think officers have been chosen for next year - so I’ll probably try for that.) My passion is for community service and these comments have helped make clear to me that I need to do a better job explaining that in my essay. Also, I would note that I did some work last summer in Central America preserving animal habitats and I have a service trip planned this summer to help out in the Gulf with the wildlife affected by the Gulf oil spill.</p>
<p>And, yes, I will apply EA to Yale.</p>
<p>Thanks for opinions!</p>
<p>He’s semi final USAPhO. He at least made it past the first test. </p>
<p>I dunno. You guys are being way too harsh. IF the OP is being honest, he is most likely smarter than 90% of the posters on this thread (with the exception of me Of Course ;)).</p>
<p>HPSM- low reach
Yale- Match
Penn- Match
CHicago- Low match
Brown- reach (brown admissions is really wack. Every once in a while, they take people off waitlist based on how good looking they are. They make you submit a photo of yourself. Unless you are hot, its a reach).</p>
<p>I think everyone is being too tough. TO be honest, what does a “reach” or a “match” mean? Ill define it: Reach: <25% match: >50% chance</p>
<p>This applicant is clearly more likely to get into Yale than not. Thus i am very tempted to put match for all of his school choices. I will be genuinely disgusted with adcoms if he is not accepted into at least 1 HYPSM.</p>
<p>It’s funny that several posters assumed I’m a guy. I’m not.</p>
<p>When you have a name like Cubsfan15, i’m sure you’ll get a flurry of gender stereotyping.
Just curious, do you have any awards that might significantly help you in terms of admission?</p>
<p>@jasoninNY There is no way HPSM is a low reach for him. He has a somewhat low score in the writing section, his EC’s are generic and lacking.</p>
<p>^^^^ Its ACT. His English is at least a 33 even factored in with the writing.</p>
<p>Colleges dont even look at the essay scores. I can guarantee that someone with an 8 essay but 800 writing SAT score will have equal chances as someone with a 12 essay and 800 writing score. </p>
<p>lets consider EC. All good asians do piano, tennis, science, and more science. Generic? Hell yes. Effective? Even more HELL YES. Generic doesnt mean bad. If everyone was an Intel and Westinghouse SF and Finalist, we’d be building 10 more Harvards all across USA.</p>
<p>Thanks JasonInNY - I hope you are right - and by the way I am a nice, white sceince girl. </p>
<p>I realize that, to a certain extent, HYPS is a reach for anyone who hasn’t won some big national/international award. I was just hoping I would be fairly competitive.</p>
<p>My hope was that my ECs were, though not stellar, good enough so that my academics would pull me through. Is 4 years tennis, 4 years of community service with a huge number of hours and leadership, 4 years of math team, and 4 years of peer jury really that bad? I thought the idea was to concentrate on a few activities and to show a real commitment to them – I definitely think I can show that with community service. Plus I think my last two summers will further support this. </p>
<p>The thing that has got me worried is some people putting Penn and Duke in the reach category – I thought my chances at theses schools were pretty good. And I was really surprised when someone had WUSTL as a low reach - I thought I was fairly safe there as long as I visited and showed interest.</p>
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<p>You still have to stand out. Let’s agree that “all good Asians” do those things. Let’s assume there are three Asian guys from Irvine, California (picking a random CA city) applying to Yale. They have the exact same SAT score (let’s say 2290), UW GPA (3.97), number of APs/honors, and they shared valedictorian. A has won some prestigious piano award, won tennis doubles (his partner was a junior) in his state, and was an Intel semifinalist. B placed 5th in the piano competition that A won, went to states for tennis singles, and won 2nd place at his regional science fair as a junior for his research. C got an honorable mention in that piano competition (equivalent to placing 10-15th, let’s say), placed 3rd in tennis regional singles, and conducted research at UC Davis over the summer, but failed to be awarded any recognition for it, because it was kind of lackluster.</p>
<p>Now, B and C are just as smart as A. But are things looking good for them to be admitted to Yale? OH HELL NAW. A passion for Spanish literature or becoming president of Habitat for Humanity or whatever would have served both of them much better. The thing about being generic, is that you have to be ONE OF THE BEST in those activities. Which leaves room for people like D, who’s salutatorian with stats a smidge lower than A, B, or C, who’s a nationally ranked fire poi dancer/artist/performer/whatever you call them, to sneak into Yale. That fire poi salutatorian only competes with maybe a hundred people to be “that fire poi girl” (Should any of the fire poi people be talented enough generally to admit. I’m not saying there’s a spot reserved for someone who does fire poi in every class. That would be silly.) at Yale. The tennis-piano-science Asians compete with maybe 10,000. That’s why generic is bad. It is not bad, per se, but by being generic you massively up the amount of competition you face.</p>
<p>OP: I’m pretty sure you’re in at WUSTL, unless you decide you’re too good for them and thus unlikely to matriculate. They waitlisted a lot of the best candidates from my school this year and last year, seemingly for that reason. Penn’s iffy depending on what college you want to go to within it. As I said before, I’d lay money on you getting into one of HYPS, maybe two, but I would NOT make any bets about which two. You have a decent shot at all of them (despite conventional wisdom on these boards, 80% of applicants may be technically capable of doing the work, but I’d guess that about half of those are actually viable candidates–i.e., capable of not only doing the work, but having a balanced social and extracurricular life because they’re on top of their classes enough that they don’t have to study ALL THE TIME). I’d guess you have maybe a 30% chance of admission to Yale SCEA, 69% chance of deferral, 1% chance of rejection. Idk about regular and am now at way too many words on this post. G’luck!</p>
<p>If everyone was an Intel finalist then it would have no prestige and it wouldn’t present a sense of achievement, therefore it would be largely useless. HYPSM is never a low reach for anyone unless they have a massive hook, which he doesn’t have.</p>
<p>Look at the previous results for HYPSM… they have stellar extra-curriculars with a lot of leadership, impact and achievement. The OP doesn’t stand out to me, and if I were a admissions officer I would most probably reject him (most other 2400s have amazing ECs and not all 2400s are accepted). I would honestly say that if he’s lucky, he might get accepted to one (most probably Yale because of legacy.</p>
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<p>Can you give me a link to an article on this or something? Haha I really want to know more about this. </p>
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<p>OP - I agree with JasoninNY, but not as extreme. I’m leaning towards what he is saying, is what I mean. Good chances at HYPMS (low-mid reach) and high matches/low reach at the easier schools.</p>
<p>@HKToUS</p>
<p>Most 2400’s are accepted at a 50%+ rate. I’d call that a “match.”</p>
<p>Most 2400s naturally have higher statistics in other academic aspects such as GPA and SAT II. They are naturally stronger than other applicants, as their 2400 reciprocates into other sections of their application.</p>
<p>The OPs, however, does not seem to do that. At least not for me. Therefore, I would refrain from calling it a match. 2 US IMO team members were rejected from Harvard. How can you possibly call Harvard a match when two of the top six mathematicians in the US are being rejected from such a school.</p>