<p>sats: 1310
sat IIs:
writing: 600
math IIc: 640
history: 650</p>
<p>rank: 2 (salutatorian)</p>
<p>ECs:</p>
<p>Asian Cultural Studies Club - President, Founder
National Honors Society - Historian
Math Honors Society - Secretary
Beta Club - Secretary
Environmental Club - Webmaster
Art Club - Treasurer
KMO (Knowledge Master Open)
Robotics
Key Club
Chess Club
Spanish Club
Science Club
Astronomy Club
CROSS COUNTRY</p>
<p>Awards</p>
<p>American Visions Art Award
Nat. Honor Society
Math Honor Society
Vietnamese Academics Achiever Award
Scholar Athlete
Per. Attendence 10yr
Per. Writing SOL
IT Center Acceptance
Art Center Acccepted
Gold Key Art Award</p>
<p>i know these are weird stats but thats who i am. thanks</p>
<p>Your standardized test scores are way below the normal level for Harvard. Write good essays and you better be really really good at cross country and really really good at art.</p>
<p>What exactly. . . . do asian studies clubs do???? I've always wondered about those clubs. . . . I don't know why they exist.</p>
<p>And what are the beta club, astronomy club, and science club? Does the environmental club really need a webmaster? Explain the role of secretary to the math society. What is a historian in the national honors society? What on earth does a treasurer do in an arts club?</p>
<p>And what are the beta club, astronomy club, and science club? Does the environmental club really need a webmaster? Explain the role of secretary to the math society. What is a historian in the national honors society? What on earth does a treasurer do in an arts club?</p>
<p>well beta club, it's pretty much a national club that's pretty known for community service. i'm surprised you dont know about it. astronomy club is... astronomy.. science club is... scence club. and environmental club does need a website.. and the role of secretary of math society would probably collect money. and historian for nhs.. records what happened that year. treasurer blah blah</p>
<p>and being accepted into the center for arts is an award isnt it?</p>
<p>i was thinking that colleges didnt care much for sats as much as they use to</p>
<p>jono: I've also wondered what the heck asian clubs do besides bolster the already strong sense of community among asians (btw, I'm asian). Since so many asians apply with this largely bs EC, I would think that it actually hurts asian applicants.</p>
<p>well we talk about issues, and it's not an asian CLUB for asians, its actually for everyone to learn about asian culture itself. and to understand it so that any misconception can be thrown away. so it's more of a discussion group then a asian hangout as many people see it.</p>
<p>I still don't understand your explanations of what you do in these clubs. As secretary in the beta club, what community service have you done? What do these national math clubs do anyway? Do you, as secretary, spend time solving hard math problems? And I still don't know what these asian cultural studies clubs do. And why does the environmental club need a webmaster? I still don't understand. What do you have to show for your efforts as historian for the national honor society? What does the national honor society as a whole have to show for its existence? As treasurer of the arts club, what do you actually do? What is the center for arts? Right now, I don't know how acceptance into it is an award. How do you qualify? Is it a competition you win, and how do you win it? Harvard is gonna wonder what these odd titles are and what your clubs do. Your clubs aren't like yearbook, or school newspaper, or literary magazine, or orchestra, or additional school or college classes, or student government, or local community service, or job. They're vague.</p>
<p>Alright, I understand more the "asian club" concept. But it's not like asians suffer any debilitating cultural misconceptions...idk, perhaps you live in an area very different from mine.</p>
<p>EDIT: when you send your activity list to Harvard, you might want to explain what you just did about the asian club in a sentence or two, b/c the idea of asian clubs as facades for asian cliques is quite prevalent.</p>
<p>You're right, your stats are weird. It's not exactly like you were doing these activities to make a good resume, but it's still a hodgepodge of activities, and I can't tell what your real interests are. I don't know what to make of it. </p>
<p>Perfect attendance? :) I think mine lasted about 10 years, too: 2th-11th grade. Then I had like 5 absences and 10 lates this year.</p>
<p>What do you mean, binarystar? Not beign sick at home for ten years obviously means that he's favored by divine powers (who protect him from illness, stress, and traffic). There's no greater award than that.</p>
<p>i always thought that everyone would be amazed that i never missed a day in school for 10 years. and it would be 11 if i had come ot school on a day that had no exams ;/ but ha</p>
<p>I would be surprised if you got into any of the Ivys, leave Harvard on the side.</p>
<p>It's especially hard for Asians to get into any school b/c of all the competition involved, and most of them have excellent stats.</p>
<p>No offense, b/c i m giving my subjective opinion and i am not an admissions officer. Just to let you know PRinceofNam, my cousin had almost exactly the same ECs + Awards, plus a superb essay that made everyone cry their eyes out, excellent recs, valedictorian status, 1380/700/710/680, and got rejected from Brown, Columbia, AND Cornell (which wasn't expected..he thought Cornell would be a shoo-in.. lol)</p>
<h2>I still don't understand your explanations of what you do in these clubs. As secretary in the beta club, what community service have you done? What do these national math clubs do anyway? Do you, as secretary, spend time solving hard math problems? And I still don't know what these asian cultural studies clubs do. And why does the environmental club need a webmaster? I still don't understand. What do you have to show for your efforts as historian for the national honor society? What does the national honor society as a whole have to show for its existence? As treasurer of the arts club, what do you actually do? What is the center for arts? Right now, I don't know how acceptance into it is an award. How do you qualify? Is it a competition you win, and how do you win it? Harvard is gonna wonder what these odd titles are and what your clubs do. Your clubs aren't like yearbook, or school newspaper, or literary magazine, or orchestra, or additional school or college classes, or student government, or local community service, or job. They're vague.</h2>
<p>You should definitely apply..
However, I agree with everyone else here.. EC's need not be a laundry list. You have 14 clubs. There's no way you are exceptional in all and still have time to breathe. Also, like everyone else said, most of your EC's are clubs - college won't know what you've actually done in these clubs.</p>
<p>Key Club
Chess Club
Spanish Club
Science Club
Astronomy Club
-> all these are CLUBS - is there any qualifications? anywhere you are judged for talent/skills? If not, then they don't add much to a person's application.</p>
<p>i included this in the additional info of my common app: </p>
<p>Note: My high school, Deep Run, was created the same year I first attended. So, in a sense my class was the "trailblazer" for which all other classes would follow suit. Many of the clubs, activities, and classes taken for granted at other schools were not offered at Deep Run High School. The clubs, for which many students had to work together on, were run and coordinated for the very first time. Holding leadership positions in these clubs meant a lot more than they would at any other school. Not only did I go past the "secretary" or "historian" role of the club, as an officer I was in charge of maintaing the club and making sure that it ran well for all other proceding classes.</p>