<p>Legacy (Dad, Grandfather, Mother, Couisin went to UVa)
In-state..10 miles away
UVA has always been my number one choice and wrote extremely good essays and have incredible recommendations from 3 alumni teachers and community mentors</p>
<p>ACT Comp.-26
Blue Ridge Virtual Governor's School-1 of 15 students in my county
3.65 GPA..Rank 26/226
5 APs this year, Gov. School and Dual Enrollment Calculus
AP Gov., AP. Lit., AP Macroeconomics, AP Microeconomics, AP Spanish Lit., PVCC Calculus, Physics, Gov. School Internship</p>
<p>Summer Governor's School for Math Science and Technology of 2007
1 of 155 students in the state accepted, 1 month, classes</p>
<p>4 year Varsity Golf..All-District, Captain, Most Improved, Leadership Award
2 Year Varsity Baseball..2 year letterman
President of Math Club
Vice President of Future Business Leaders of America
Key and Beta Club
200+ hours of Community Service at Public Schools(parents both teachers)
Central Virginia Toy and Book Lift- 4 years
Community Service through Church, School, etc.</p>
<p>Worked at Carter's Mountain Orchard(Charlottesville) 2 years-Information
Work for Parks and Rec. as Umpire and Referee-2 years</p>
<p>My GPA may be a little low, but I think my classes make up for it...Gov. School and 10 AP/Dual Enrollment courses in high school...</p>
<p>PLEASE GIVE ME SOME POSTS!! any info. helps!! Be honest...Thanks!</p>
<p>I think you have a fairly good chance of admission. Your GPA is a little low, but if you balance that with your class rank, it kind of evens out. Your rank is quite nice. Now, your ACT is low and that might hurt you, but I get the feeling that the UVA adcom is able to look at the whole person and can look beyond iffy SAT's and ACT's if a candidate has other compelling assets.
Your EC's are very interesting and you should be proud about the Gov. school selection/accomplishment. You clearly have challenged yourself with the 10 AP/Dual Enrollment courses.
You are in-state, and have mega-legacy status. Depending on where you live, you might have a rural status that could be helpful too. So, I think if you did a great job with your essays, and if your letters of rec. are indeed as nice as they sound like they probably will be, I think you have a better than 50/50 chance of getting in. Let's say 60/40? Of course I don't really know, but you have a chance indeed.</p>
<p>my area is fluvanna which is 10 miles from C-Ville....we only have about 15 kids who even have a shot at getting in to UVA...I got 2 teachers that I've known my whole life do my recommendations, both UVA grads..
I also got my engineering internship who owns a engineering company in C-ville to to the other one...he's also a UVA grad..I also got my grandfather to do my other...who is a uva grad in masters and doctorate...
We will see what happens..my essays look great and I don't think I could have done my app. any better...I think 60/40 sounds about right..thanks
anymore?? anybody??</p>
<p>pats! You are back!
You have played your cards correctly from the sounds of it. I still think you've got a shot at it. 60/40 or maybe even 70/30. I don't think that the adcom will just toss your application into abyss. They will take into account your legacy status, your location, your impressive EC's, LOR's. You're not a shoe-in, but not a shoe-out either.</p>
<p>I, for one, do not accept the statement that legacy status for instate students does not help. I think that pat's strong family ties with UVA, and the LOR's from UVA alumni will, perhaps, play well for him. His stats are not perfect, he knows that.
Yes, ACT is very low. GPA is in the competitive range for IS students. I think the Gov. School stuff is really cool. I'm OOS and was invited to my state's Gov. School, but I turned it down because it was such a burden in the middle of summer. So, for someone to be selected and go through that torture, that gets my attention and respect.</p>
<p>HEY JIMMYJAM! Ma'am!! not dude.....haha
uva can say as much as they want that instate legacy doesn't matter, but it def. does....
guillaume when have YOU told me all this??? a few months ago?? sorry please forgive me......
thanks for the respect powderpuff^^^ I appreciate it...</p>
<p>Pats:
Which School are you applying for at UVa (College of A&S, Engineering, etc.)?
What is your (unweighted) GPA by grade/year in school (9/10/11/)?
What will your Senior Mid-Year Grade Report look like (# of A's/B's, GPA)?
What's your high school's grading scale for an "A" and a "B"?</p>
<p>"uva can say as much as they want that instate legacy doesn't matter, but it def. does...."</p>
<p>Pats, you wrote the above, but I've never seen anything in writing from UVA that says that instate legacy does not matter. Be upbeat, don't believe everything that is posted on CC. I truly do not believe that UVA will ignore legacy status for the IS people. Of course it won't gain you admission on that alone, but it's all a part of the whole picture, and everyone is unique. Hang in there, April is just around the corner!</p>
<p>Guillaume:
Do you recall the specifics of what the UVa Legacy Office told you and your Daughter regarding the impact or non-impact of UVa legacy status for IN STATE applicants? Would you be willing to share any comments they made and/or advice they gave related to applications from Virginia residents whose mother and/or father graduated from the University?</p>
<p>I have some thoughts on this issue, but before penning them I would like to know more about what the UVa Legacy Office told you in your conversations with them. No confidential stuff, only generic information please. Thanks.</p>
<p>Powderpuff:
I can see from your post that you're really into the swing of things at UVa ("Hang in there, April is just around the corner!"), because I suspect you're enjoying yourself immensely at the University and the days are flying by for you just like they are for my son. Am I right?</p>
<p>But think back now to this time LAST YEAR (assuming you weren't accepted ED). Didn't April 1st seem a long way away? I know it did for my son; the days just CRAWLED BY, especially during the winter months before baseball season started. We didn't think April 1st would ever come. (Of course when March 31st {6 pm} finally did arrive, we were almost too terrified to log into his UVa Admissions Application Status Account and learn his verdict -- but that's a story for another day.)</p>
<p>For young people in Pats' shoes, April 1 probably seems a long way off .....</p>
<p>For folks like you (if you weren't ED) and my son, it's a pleasant memory.</p>
<p>Yes, winter last year was the longest in my entire life. But the whole process is a pleasant memory for me, and I think that's why I hang out on CC so much. The whole application/admissions thing is such a game that needs to be tweaked and molded so that everything is just right. I did get a few likely letters, e-mails, and scholarship offers from some of the schools I applied to, so that helped to fill the time.</p>
<p>Pats:
Which School are you applying for at UVa (College of A&S, Engineering, etc.)?
What is your (unweighted) GPA by grade/year in school (9/10/11/)?
What will your Senior Mid-Year Grade Report look like (# of A's/B's, GPA)?
What's your high school's grading scale for an "A" and a "B"?</p>
<p>I am applying to the Engineering School at UVa and I already took a UVa engineering course online and recieved an A....
My unweighted GPA is like a 3.6 and it has been around that every year at my school......
My mid year grades will be 2 A's and 3 B's....AP Microeconomics, AP Literature, AP Government, Physics, PVCC Calculus........
My high school grading scale is 95-100 for an A, 94-88 B from 2003-2006
from 2007-2008 it is 93-100 A and 85-92 B......</p>
<p>HH'sDad,
My husband spoke to them. He graduated from UVA as well as his dad. I don't know/remember the details of the conversation except that there were about 600+ legacies applying. They do their best to make sure everyone is given proper consideration but to be honest, there isn't much they can do. They asked my husband to send them D's transcript as well as the school profile and told him to make sure she didn't get a C (lol, as if he could do anything about that).
As far as legacies are concerned it has been said many times on CC by people in the know as well as by Dean J that the only preference that legacy provides is for OOS students: they are included in the Instate pool so they are considered against the other IS applicants instead of OOS applicants which would be more competitive.
BTW, they only consider parents (mother and father) as legacies. They don't care if everybody on your family tree went to UVA.
And having a zillion recommendations from "important people" doesn't impress them.
Basically what gets you in is top 10% of your class and weighted GPA of at least 4.0. Excellent SAT or ACT numbers are not as important but if they are below 1300, chances diminish.</p>
<p>Well guillaume, you sound much more in the know than I am about legacy status (neither of my folks went to UVA). I confess that I just sort of assumed that legacy status IS would offer something? Even just a little bit? But I guess I'm wrong. Thanks for educating me. That's good information to know.</p>
<p>guillame I disagree 100%.....legacy has a huge impact on your application and if it didn't then they wouldn't have it on there....some may say it doesn't have an impact, but it most certainly does...I've seen kids get in from my school with grades and scores much lower than what you said get in....especially to the engineering school I am applying to......
I appreciate your information and all, but I think you're way off base when it comes to those statistics for instate
It all depends on where you live and how many people they accept from your school.....my school only has about 10-15 people that actually have a chance compared to NOVA that has about 100-150...</p>
<p>I hate to jump into this debate, but I guess I can't help myself... I'm a legacy applicant (OOS), and have posted several questions regarding any possible benefits of this characteristic. And not that it pertains to my situation, but I do remember Dean J saying that because of the high number of IS legacy applicants, they do not give huge weight to this characteristic. This would refute the claim that "legacy has a huge impact on admission" (re: IS). This is not verbatum, but you can definately search for the thread if you want to see it for yourself.</p>
<p>My personal belief is that being a legacy will certainly give you a nod, but is not going to provide an acceptance letter if you're an otherwise unqualified applicant. Whether or not this describes you, is up to the admissions office to determine.</p>
<p>Something I've always wondered about oos legacy applicants being granted instate status; Do those OOS admitted candidates count against the 32% oos applicant pool or are they counted as part of the 68% instate admitted applicant pool?</p>
<p>...here's hoping the answer is the 32%....
Thanks!</p>