Chances/What To Work On

<p>I just started my junior of high school, and currently in 26th out of 399. Havent taken any SATs, took PSAT as a sophomore and got a 196. I'm about to take the Chemistry SATs in a month. Active Boy Scout, ready to reach Eagle Scout around spring or so. Because of this stopped playing sports in order to be more active in scouts(call me crazy). Puerto Rican/Irish. Both parents alumni. Currently taking 3 AP classes all of my other classes are advanced. Baptized catholic but because of divorce and my mom becoming episcopalian(plus dad in other state) i go to one church every other weekend, didnt give enough oppurtunity to go through confirmation. Spanish Honor Society. In clubs at school. Plan on taking one or two of the following in addition to Chemistry SAT: Math II, Biology, or Spanish. Doesn't help me getting in but fyi if/once i go to ND i plan on becoming confirmed while there(love the church just no oppurtunity) What do I need to get on SATs and what rank do i need to move to? Thanks if you answer you have no idea(maybe you do) of how much this means to me.</p>

<p>Don't know if it matters: plan on getting biochem major and then go on to maybe Albany Nanotech for nanobiotechnology masters</p>

<p>o yea btw albeit it was no a catholic church i was/am heavily involved with my mom's episcopla church: altar boy,taught sunday school, soup kitchen, volunteer work in keeping up grounds</p>

<p>i realize that this forum(site too!) is full of these posts but i wouldnt mind some help if u dont mind. I know 55 people have viewed this, so.......if u can.........PLEAS HELP! </p>

<p>thanks</p>

<p>Sounds like you are doing the right things and are on the right track. It is hard to say without solid SAT scores, but I think you have a good shot with what you are saying. Do practice tests for the SAT and get ready for that and also work on your class rank.</p>

<p>thanks irish68178 even this little bit helps, I do realize that i need to move up my class rank, I plan on at least gettingto 20th place(i hope!). my friend(ranked number 1) is giving me some tips and helping me this year so i do better in school. btw do you go to Notre Dame?</p>

<p>I agree that you are on track to be a very competitive applicant. My daughter was admitted from the waiting list and is now a Freshman. Her class rank Junior year was almost identical to your's. She was able to improve to top 4% by the time she was considered from the waiting list. </p>

<p>She took the ACT and SAT three times each. It was her third ACT that I think gave her the edge to be admitted. She also had strong extracurriculars. So what ever you can do to continue your leadership experiences I think that will help.</p>

<p>Finally, the thing that I think really helped my daughter was that she visited Notre Dame and made some contacts with faculty in her area of interest. She also made a point of visitng with her admission counselor each time she visited. (she only visited two times.) Finally she repeatedly sent updates to admission counselor after she sent in her application. As she got new awards, recognition, and scholarships and upgraded grades she sent e-mails to her admission counselor. </p>

<p>Anyway - you are on the right track. I'd recommend you feel comfortable contacting the admission counselor - the one my daughter worked with was great - I'm sure they all are.</p>

<p>thanks i've visited two times officially(i dont think it counts if i was in elemntary school) the first time my dad intorduced me to the counsellor in charge of hispanic admissions so i talked with her, i dont know if she will be the first person to look at my application because she covered a region on the west coast,anyways.....the second time was when Michigan State played Notre Dame(they'll win next time) so there was no time to talk with her(i saw her in the stadium) but i got to meet other hispanic alumni and current students which was nice. How long was she on the waiting list for?</p>

<p>I think she was one of the first group of kids to get admitted from the waitlist - I think she got a call in mid-May. It seemed like a long wait, but it was worth it. She is very happy</p>

<p>man, i am not looking forward to waiting for a response, its gut wrenching for me jsut to look in my mailbox for a letter from my congressman....</p>

<p>o btw(that seems to be my favorite phrase) i plan to take a course this summer at Notre Dame for hispanic leadership i also plan on taking a 5-week course at Cornell for nanotechnology(its my number two school) just fyi</p>

<p>anything else?</p>

<p>Weed... Nice STATS... PSAT's are EXTREMLY ACCURATE predictor of how you will do on the real thing. I highly recommend that you apply RD instead of ED, as I think you would have a much higher chance in the Regular pool.</p>

<p>For ND, your going to need atleast a 2150+... and even with those, some of my best friends have been rejected. I love your EC's, they're pretty unique and original, and I would definitly place special emphasis on your membership to the Boy scouts. </p>

<p>If you haven't taken an SAT II, I would reccommend you apply RD, since you will have more time to study for them, and the SAT II's tend to seperate the "would be's (acceptees)" from the "had beens.(rejectees)" Its hard, since, unlike the SAT, everyone who takes an SAT II (20,000+ studetns )is aiming for a 750+, and only about <1,000 can actually get them. It's harsh. </p>

<p>About the legacies... I've actually heard that ND accepts more legacies in RD because there are fewer of them in the application pool. If I were you, I would certainly, in fact, I would only be interested in RD.</p>

<p>I think you have a better chance at Cornell ED if that's what your interested in...</p>

<p>Good luck! (Sorry if this came out discourging)</p>

<p>well i dont neccessarily think its discouraginf u did tell me that i have no chance. Lets see im scheduled to take chemistry sat on the first weekend, so i'll let u know how i do. Also, i plan on taking others(possibly Spanish, Biology, and Math II) I might take them all but at least one or two of them because of what other schools require. For the last three years,till now, i have wanted to go to Cornell, but before that since i was kid i wanted to go to notre dame. but i switched views when they didnt have any nanotech programs and now that is changed i have renewed interest.</p>

<p>in other words i could get over the fact of possibly getting into cornell instead of notre dame</p>

<p>I don't think we should overlook the fact that you're Hispanic, and Notre Dame is really pushing for a more diverse student body. Add to that that you're a double legacy, and the normal stats just don't apply to you (although if you achieve around the normal stats, I'd say you're probably in). </p>

<p>I don't think you should apply ED anywhere, but certainly think about EA for other schools, which are non-binding. If your SAT or ACT are in range, you should apply EA. </p>

<p>Also - Eagle Scout is <em>very</em> big, you are easily in the top 10%, and the PSAT is not always a predictor of the SAT. It definitely was not in my son's case. He had about your score on the PSAT and ended up with a 1420 and 1480. Also, take the ACT at least once. They'll take the higher of the two (SAT or ACT), and some kids just do better on one or the other.</p>

<p>I think you have an extremely unique background and story. Make sure you tell the story in your application, even if it's an add on sheet, or it comes from your counselor, or you get it in the catch-all category at the end of the application.</p>

<p>yea im actually thinking of writing about my dad,it seems kinda odd i guess, but he is a real inspiration to me</p>

<p>took the PSATs again, hope i did better,(at least 210) we'll see</p>

<p>o this summer i'll be doin appalachia service project(i found out that my mom wrote her essay about her experience there, dont plan to but thats interesting to find out in the aftermath)</p>

<p>Weedboy - I really think achieving the Eagle Scout award is considered very important in college applications. My son got his right before he sent off his applications, and he was accepted to all the schools he applied to, including ND. I'm sure that's not the only reason he was accepted everywhere, but I'm also sure it didn't hurt. Achieving Eagle Scout takes a huge commitment, and I think college counselors recognize that. You sound like you have some great credentials besides that, so I'll cross my fingers for you in April!</p>

<p>i'll appreciate that, but i'm actually a junior, so it'll be another year.......</p>