hey everyone,
do u think that an ivy league school like yale would reject a student with a perfect SAT score, OK grades, 3.9 GPA and a considerable amount of ECs?
<p>Very likely. If you did perform well on your essays or interviews, you could be rejected easily.
There's tons of people (like 90% applicants) each year who got straight As, excellent academic records, 1600 SAT, a whole bunch of scattered EC's, and still get rejected.
The ivies look for not only academic achievements, but also for a "passion" that you have to something and have devoted your time and efforts into it. They also look for well rounded personalities.</p>
<p>yea and especially since a kid i know who got 2400 CHEATED on the SAT. disgusting.</p>
<p>easily overlooked. They reject 1600's every year. Duke boasts of rejecting 59% of the valedictorians apps....so, as the other posters said, it's essays and passion.</p>
<p>Not to crush anyone's spirit, but....yeah. I sometimes think I was lucky not to be perfect, because then they look at me as a human, whereas if they see 2400 they're like "This kid must live in the library. Too serious, we need diverse people."</p>
<p>I don't think they would assume that.</p>
<p>Yeah, that's strong. But, honestly, when I meet someone with an amazing GPA and SATs, that's what pops into my mind first. I guess I'm just jealous :)</p>
<p>My friends can't believe how little studying I do, and the ease with which I pull off my SAT scores and such. They just assume I study my ass off.</p>
<p>They do reject a lot of people with perfect scores. However, there seems to be a perception that universities do this simply because there are too many numerically super-qualified applicants. I can't tell you how many posts I've read where someone says something like:</p>
<p>"There are just too many 2400 SAT, 4.0 GPA, 1000 hours of community service applicants out there for universities to accept. They simply don't have enough spots in their classes."</p>
<p>This, of course, is absurd. There aren't enough 2400s with perfect GPAs to fill the class of one top university, much less all of them. No - universities make a conscious decision to look at many other factors when evaluating admission. In principle, this is wise, although I believe that many schools go way overboard with this philosophy.</p>
<p>Here is the definitive answer, this year's Yale admits/rejects and their stats. You will find several 1600s that were rejected.</p>
<p>RD
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com...ead.php?t=46699%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com...ead.php?t=46699</a>
EA - toward the end
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com...read.php?t=4402%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com...read.php?t=4402</a></p>
<p>For the year before, search for massacre</p>
<p>Namaste, you really know someone who got a perfect score by cheating? lol</p>
<p>they might get rejected at one or possibly 2 top universities but more than likely they would get into a majority of them</p>
<p>Remember this: Top schools are looking to build a well-rounded freshman class, not higher median test scores. </p>
<p>Admissions committees have goals for what "a well-rounded freshman class" should look like. If they've received 20 applications from oboe players with perfect grades and test scores, and your main EC is oboe playing, you'd need to have something else on the table to cement your chances or they just may decide they'd rather have that football player with the 1560 SAT.</p>
<p>That 1560 for football players is the new SAT right? lol</p>
<p>All I know is that the really really prestigious schools, like Harvard and Yale, and pretty unpredictable in the admissions process.</p>
<p>A 1600 (or 2400 for c/o 2010) won't gurantee you a spot at any of the selective colleges, but think about it this way: if the colleges say that they reject 50% of their 1600's, then that means that someone someone with a 1600 has a 50% of chance of getting in, much better than the ~15% admissions rate at selective schools.</p>
<p>why is it than whenever anyone mentions the idea of being in the right place at the right time for a college, they always bring up playing the oboe.......</p>
<p>I have no idea, but maybe I should pick up oboe-ing...</p>
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A 1600 (or 2400 for c/o 2010) won't gurantee you a spot at any of the selective colleges, but think about it this way: if the colleges say that they reject 50% of their 1600's, then that means that someone someone with a 1600 has a 50% of chance of getting in, much better than the ~15% admissions rate at selective schools.
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<p>I'm glad somebody finally made this point. It's true that a 1600/2400/whatever isn't going to guarantee your acceptance to the elite school of your choice. But it is going to give you a statistical leg up, and in this game that's all you can ask for.</p>
<p>exactly no one thing garuntees u a spot in a top college that is unless your name is George W. Bush.......good old GW</p>