Chances

<p>White Male- Suburban Public</p>

<p>Cummulative GPA: 3.62uw, 4.33 w ( top 20% uw top 10% w)
9: 4uw 4.5 w
10:3.86uw 4.62 w
11: 3.0 uw 3.86w </p>

<p>SAT 2160 720m, 730cr, 710w(8 essay but have a lower overall score with an 11) (should be able to add 30 points to both m & cr, and if i could put together a good mc and essay I could get a 800 on writing)</p>

<p>need to take Sat IIs still</p>

<p>AP's
5 US Gov
5 Euro History
5 World History</p>

<p>Senior APs
Calc AB
English
Econ
US History
Comparitive gov</p>

<p>I was in a sort of unique situation because I transferred in the middle 9th grade from a school with less opportunities as far a math and science levels. This left me taking Alg I in 9th,and then both Geometry and Alg II in 10th to make up for it. I also ended up with 2 sciences as a junior with both chem and physics. I have taken the most difficult schedule possible at my school and with the exception of last year have done extremely well. </p>

<p>EC's
Student Government VP 10th
Student Government President (both 11th and 12th)
Varsity Ice Hockey (10th, 11th, 12th)
Founder of Political Debate Club
Quiz Bowl type team (9th-12th)
Mock Trial (11-12)
Lots of Community service, ran a blood drive, other charity events through Student Government</p>

<p>Awards
Maryland Distinguished Scholar Honorable mention
NMS comended at least (215)</p>

<p>Also would ED help me or should I wait until RD to prove that last year was a 1 time deal?</p>

<p>Thanks</p>

<p>I think the best way to utilize this web site is to ask questions about the college experience rather than assesment of admissions chances. If your keen about finding out your chances you can look at the stats on W and Ls website about Sat scores and such. Instead of asking highschool kids about admissions chances , why not email an admissions officer or invest time in essays.</p>

<p>I understand that I could utilize the schools website (and have), however, I felt that my junior year grades contrasted with everything else I've done in high school. I'm really just looking for input as far as how this will affect me from people who might be knowledgeable of similar situations. I don't really want to email an adcom with a message that highlights my main weakness. and btw This has consumed at most a good 10 minutes of my time, I doubt it will affect my essays.</p>

<p>So send the adcom an anonymous email and dont use your stats but ask a hypotethical question.</p>

<p>Your credentials are excellent. I don't see any real issues. College admission officers are not automatons, and they consider circumstances rather than viewing applicants for admission as simply numbers.
I suggest that if you want W & L, apply ED, and make sure you get your explanation of your circumstances into your letters of recommendation, your interview, and any other communication with the school.</p>

<p>is there any advantage to applying say ED I instead of ED II? and would it be negated by being able to show mid year grades by applying ED II?</p>

<p>W & L, like many smaller LACs, wants students who WANT W & L. They will accept almost 1/2 of their class from ED applicants, and a major factor in this is that they know that they will not end up playing second fiddle to Duke, or Princeton, or Vanderbilt. If you really want to attend W & L, let them know that as early as possible, and apply ED.</p>

<p>but does EDI say I want W&L more than EDII?</p>

<p>You seem to be missing the point here. ED is binding. Ergo, W & L will consider you more seriously than at any other time during the application process since you are committing to them. Once the ED period is over, almost half the next freshman class is chosen. That means that irrespective of what any subsequent 'ED' program may call itself, your application will have less power than it would have had during the ED1 period. Put in another way, if you ask W & L to marry you, your chances will never be as good to get a 'yes' than during that ED1 period. If you want to go to W & L, apply ED. If you aren't sure, don't.</p>

<p>Just to let you know, there are several posters on the W&L thread who went RD. If you are balancing FA or merit-aid packages, you need to be able to weigh the differences between the $ packages.</p>

<p>I understand the issue of "balancing" financial aid packages, but that was not the question. The question relates to ED. As for financial aid, it is likely that unless there are special circumstances, W & L is likely to offer a better financial aid package than virtually any other LAC. I was told NOT to permit my son to apply ED, since if he was accepted, he would be less likely to receive a good financial aid package, given the lack of 'incentive' on W & L's part. Suffice to say that the package he received from W & L was exceptional, and reflected the fact that they kept their word and didn't factor in the fact that he was 'in' before the aid package was offered.
My experience with the whole process is as positive as anyone I've encountered. But again, I reaffirm that you give yourself the best chance of getting accepted by applying ED.</p>

<p>Thanks for the input everyone. I am not incredibly concerned with financial aid so I will probably apply ED.</p>

<p>Yes, well you might want to consider a community college. I got a perfect 2400 on the SAT, perfect 4.0 GPA unweighted, and I got a 100 avg in every class I've ever taken in my entire life.</p>

<p>We are so glad you shared this profoundly important information with us.</p>

<p>I guess my point with ED vs. RD is that you are locked into an ED whereas with RD you can compare. We knew we wouldn't qualify for FA so it wasn't an issue for us.</p>

<p>That being said, I was surprided how many Generals are ED. We went to an accepted students reception in April in our local area sponsored by the local alumi association. The vast majority of kids had applied ED. The kids who applied RD and were still weighing acceptances were rushed hard by the alums and by the parents of ED students.</p>

<p>NYker, I am really not being rediculous here, I have a 3.0uw for Junior year, that truly could be a problem with a lot of schools.</p>