Chances?!?!

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<p>Hi!
I really really really want to go to BROWN! I applied las tyear ED and got deferred before being rejected and I am reapplying this year with my year off! I am a female applying from Chennai India, here are my stats:
SAT I : 2030
CR: 730 97%
M: 620 86%
W: 680 93% Essay: 10</p>

<p>EC’S: I can speak English, Tamil, French, Japanese and Korean fluently. I am learning German with ym year off. I am head of my MUN club in school and have been award 1 intl MUN award, 3 Nationl MUN awards (including one from the president!), I organized an MUN alst year at my school and was sec. gen for 155 kids from all over the world. I am head of the Interact Club, which is a comm. service club in school. I am school prefect, and am the editor of the school paper, I have a job with a national newspaper as a journalist and have had numerous articles b=published. I was elcted by my school to deliver a speech on independence. I have won multiple awards for debating. IN 2005, i was ranked state 15 in swimming. I am trained in opera and western classical music and have performed all over the city. I have also done 2 Trinity college of music exams. I have done 2 TERRA examinations on environmental education. I have tutored dyslexic kids in Shakespeare and English. I have also won awards for theatre and playwriting. </p>

<p>ACADEMICS:
I got a 90% over all in my 12th ISC National Exams and a 83% in ym 10th national board exams. I have topped my school in the ISC in Advanced English and Sociology and am receiving awards at the end of august for topping. My SAT II score is as follows:
LIterature: 700
MATHI: Oct 2008
French: Oct 2008</p>

<p>I attended the UVA Young Writers wORKSHOP in 2006 and just finished a programme in France where I studied WWII and Advanced French. I was also featured on a programme in 2007 on TV where I gave my views regarding the Muslim-Hindu rivalriy in India. </p>

<p>So yeah! When I appluied to Brown last year, my SATs were reeeeaaalllyyy low and my essay wasnt great but i think this year it will be a lot better (I hope!) I;m applying ED! Please let me know what yuo think!!!
Thanks1</p>

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<p>I'm pretty sure you're going to get rejected again, barring an improvement in your SAT scores and ECs. It sounds to me that your ECs are written more impressively than they actually are. Describe the competitions that you've been at and the "international" awards that you've won in Model UN. Getting Honorable Mention at a conference in Istanbul isn't really that big of an accomplishment because you weren't competing against every MUner in the world, jus teh ones at the conference. Its not really international. Point us to some of your work. Addtionally, it doesn't bode well, taht you're indian and your lowest score is math and your highest is CR. It means that language barriers aren't the cause of any discrepancy in scores and it mitigates impressiveness of your CR score. </p>

<p>Yea...I think you're not going to get in....considering you were rejected once already ED.</p>

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<p>Hmm... I won Best Delegate at THIMUN which is the largest MUN conference for high-schoolers around the world held in the Netherlands. I also won the best delegate at Colombo Model United Nations held in Sri Lanka which is one of the largest conferenecs in south asia and Iwon best delegate at the Indian Model United Nations in Delhi which is the largest conferecnce in south asia where i was presnted the award by the presdient and the ambassador to egypt.
My math score is low ebcause i am NOT a mth person. just because im indian doesnt mean that my math score has to be high and my reading score low. I am applying as an english major, i took english as my elective in high school. I happen to be good at english, and not so good at math,.
my ECs are pretty impressive compared to other kids' who are here EC's. a lot of indian kids arent given the opportunities to take part in MUN, be the youngest member on the board of a national newspaper.</p>

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<p>I think the two most important questions are: how are you spending your gap year, and do you need financial aid. </p>

<p>I'd say your chances of getting accepted are pretty low, and probably nil if you need financial aid. Girls who want to major in English are a dime a dozen -- if you were an engineer then your chances would be higher. </p>

<p>If you want to go to school in the US, I suggest you stop pinning your hopes on Brown and start looking at other schools, especially safety schools that are looking for international students.</p>

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<p>You sound pretty confident in yourself and about your ECs. Why even have a chances thread? </p>

<p>Honestly, all those schools and international competition only suggest that you have money, not that you necessarily done anything impressive. I've seen multitudes of Indians who come from poor backgrounds but have excelled at something they love. The fact that your parents can afford to send you places shouldn't determine whether you can get into these schools and apparently it doesn't seeing as you were rejected this last admissions cycle. </p>

<p>Your SAT is absolutely weak, hardly a testament your quintilingual-ness? (sp?) (is that even a word). Additionally, I'm pretty sure they give out a lot of those best delegate awards, at MUN conferences, and tons of kids at my hs and others have won them...did they go ivy league? no. I'm sorry, you don't stand out.</p>

<p>As far as your remark about other kids on these boards and your ECs being better than theirs. You're pretty presumptuous for saying that. There are students on here who run their own companies, international athletes, actors, actresses, nationally accomplished debaters winning national tournaments, authors, journalists, etc....you've got model UN...I"m sorry, not really impressive.</p>

<p>Don't get your hopes up. You're not really going to get into any ivies, or elites especially with your international status...probably better off looking at lower tier schools....</p>

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<p>Hi, I think you do have a chance of getting into Brown. </p>

<p>What I recommend you do is to review your last year's application (If you don't have a copy, then go to the Brown admissions site where you submitted application and download your original application as a pdf file). </p>

<p>This time look at your application <em>holistically from the perspective of an admissions officer</em>, bearing in mind the things they look for and ask yourself:</p>

<ul>
<li>Interest, does this candidate show genuine interest to matriculate at Brown. </li>
<li>SATs, does his/her scores indicate he/she can handle the curriculum and work load at Brown. </li>
<li>GPA, how hard this applicant has worked at school, is he/she an academically excelling applicant</li>
<li>Teachers Recs, is the counselor honest in his/her rec, what does he/she think of the applicant, anything that CONTRADICTS with what the candidates has stated.</li>
<li>Counselor's Rec, is the counselor honest in his/her rec, what does he/she think of the applicant, anything that CONTRADICTS with what the candidates has stated.
<em>ECs </em>, does the ECs show they applicant is an all-round person, does the candidate show genuine interest in their ECs, are there any ECs that highlight the character of the applicant
*Essays,</li>
</ul>

<p>I made up the questions, but you get the idea. </p>

<p>When looking through your application, remember admission officers only spend around 10 or 15 mins on their first reading of an application to determine whether or not the candidate meet the basic requirements. If deemed not good enough, the application will go straight to the rejection pile, which may or may not be reviewed later by the dean.</p>

<p>Your SAT scores are not stellar, they are not going to help your application, but that along won't cause you a rejection . It seems you've already taken the SATs a few times now, so I wouldn't recommend taking them again as I doubt you'll improve your scores by much. </p>

<p>***And remember the SATs are only used to measure an applicant's capability to excel at an institution, the problem is there are many, many more applicants with the capabilities to excel at Brown than there are places available. So you have to show Brown why YOU should be admitted, and you do that with your GPA, ECs etc.</p>

<p>Your ECs seem to be a bunch of activities thrown together. You need to show meaningful ECs, I suggest NOT to list everything you have listed here on your this year's Brown application. Focus on maybe 5 or 6 ECs that you really enjoy and in turn illustrating of the qualities and characters you possess. </p>

<p>Since you will take a gap year, I suggest <em>rebuilding</em> ECs during this time, doesn't have to be competitions, or workshops etc. Find ECs that show your character, in other word make you stand out, and make sure the ECs are Related in nature, not thrown together.</p>