<p>^Yes, lots. As I’ve stated before, I’ve lived in NC all my life and have known plenty of NC students from a number of high schools. Many have chosen NC State over UNC. I can name six or seven of those students just from one of our high school’s graduating classes. Also, plenty of very smart non-engineering students who would be competitive candidates for UNC apply to State but not UNC. Again, I can think of five or six students from that same class.</p>
<p>Here are some things you do not understand about North Carolina. We are fiercely proud of our public university system. It is one of the best in the nation. Unlike people in some parts of the country, though, we don’t get too obsessed about prestige. We’re more concerned about whether our children get a strong education. I know a lot about many of the colleges, both public and private, in North Carolina and can state unequivocally that there are a number of places to get that strong education. I’m immensely proud of UNC’s academic reputation and am a die-hard fan in sports, but I know that even the school that I love isn’t going to suit everyone.</p>
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<p>I have a family member who has been involved with the admissions committee at UNC’s medical school and can assure you that it doesn’t work like that. There is no way that UNC’s medical school is going to consider a degree from NC State “lesser”.</p>
<p>You are a high school student (I presume in Pennsylvania or an adjacent state) who spends a lot of time on CC dispensing advice about colleges all across the country. Making blanket statements about universities in other states to people on this forum who have lived in those other states for years and know better isn’t going to advance your standing.</p>
<p>On the other hand, given your fascination with comparing colleges and given some years of life experience, you just might make a good guidance counselor one day.</p>
<p>^^^like
Off the top of my head, I know at least ten “smart” kids who turned down UNC-CH for NCSU. My S1 and some of his friends fell into that category. None of them were engineering majors. Choosing a college is not a contest. It’s a choice based on many different factors.</p>
<p>Count my highly accomplished daughters among those who preferred NCSU over UNC-CH. Older d would have been a Physics major. She was accepted at both schools and would have chosen NCSU over UNC, but instead opted for a 3rd school most people have never heard of because it was the right fit for her. Younger d chose not to apply to UNC after checking it out for herself. She’ll be attending NCSU as a non-engineering science major. We’ve come across many highly qualified students who have also chosen not to apply to UNC-CH over the past few years.</p>
<p>Browse through the listing of student organizations, arts activities and recreational activities. There are lots of opportunities for students beyond Greek life and drinking.</p>
<p>"You are a high school student (I presume in Pennsylvania or an adjacent state) who spends a lot of time on CC dispensing advice about colleges all across the country. Making blanket statements about universities in other states to people on this forum who have lived in those other states for years and know better isn’t going to advance your standing…you just might make a good guidance counselor one day. "</p>
<p>Looks somebody got insulted and posted a personal attack. I am more than mature to reply to this. </p>
<p>"Here are some things you do not understand about North Carolina. We are fiercely proud of our public university system. It is one of the best in the nation. "</p>
<p>I agree UNC-CH is something to be proud of. Saying NCSU is great is one thing but to say that its on the same level as UNC-CH is just being misinformed. A NCSU graduate must have told you that ? Or a mom whose son is at NCSU ? Please</p>
<p>“Unlike people in some parts of the country, though, we don’t get too obsessed about prestige. We’re more concerned about whether our children get a strong education”</p>
<p>So, you are speaking for the whole state now ? That’s laughable.</p>
<p>@needavacation thank you I never bothered to look at that. I am leaning more towards state with every post. I hear chapel hill is a big frat school</p>
<p>@xtreme your argument seems to be pretty pointless right now. In north carolina, we really do not see much of a difference between chapel hill and state. Everybody agrees they are good schools and it really comes down to preference when choosing between them. Which is what i am trying to figure out, which fits my preference better</p>
<p>Go ahead, attend whichever college you want. I am NOT here to decide for you ! I am here to let people know that for the same price Ferrari Enzo is better than Honda civic(like that needs clarification). Some might prefer Ferrari, some civic.</p>
<p>I probably should just step away from this thread, but…</p>
<p>First, let me address your comments to me from last night.</p>
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Having seen many of your other posts on different threads, including a couple about NC schools, I noticed you typically choose the more prestigious school to recommend and then back up your choice by comparing average SAT scores. I assumed you were getting information from US News, I apologize if I got your source wrong.</p>
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You might want to add “fit” to that list and also listening to the opinion of people who are familiar with the school. Listen, I agree that it’s good to research as much information you can about a school before choosing. On your other post you quoted averages. This is helpful information, but it doesn’t tell you how those averages play out on a day to day basis. That’s where you need to talk to current students and find out what those numbers mean. A student on the NCSU forum mentioned that the big lecture classes she had were balanced out with small recitation groups and labs. Now, on to graduation rates - At UNC’s freshman orientation students were told the school really wanted them to finish in 4 years. UNC made it clear that they don’t encourage lingering. At NC State’s orientation the 4 year graduation goal wasn’t mentioned. If you look at NC State’s 6 year graduation rate it is higher than your stated 41%. Why? One reason is the large number of engineering students. Engineering programs can take more than 4 years. Also, being a state school that is larger than UNC, NCSU serves more local students who may need to take more than 4 years because of financial reasons. The 2010 four year graduation rate was 74.9% for UNC and 41.4 for NCSU. The 6 year rate was 88.1% for UNC and 72.5% for NCSU. </p>
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^ This made me laugh. Marsian has already addressed this, but let me add a little more. You don’t live here. You have no idea. There are diehard Wolfpack fans and there are diehard Carolina fans. Kids start wearing their Wolfpack red t-shirts or their Carolina blue t-shirts as infants and they are still wearing them when they head off to college. LOTS of those kids would not even consider the other school, even if accepted.</p>
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Did you miss where I said this - “Yes, UNC is considered more prestigious than NC State, but that doesn’t equal “you get a bad education at NCSU”.” and this - “I am not disagreeing that UNC is the more “prestigious” school…” Everyone here knows that UNC is the “more prestigious” school. The point we have been trying to get across to you is the “more prestigious” is not always the right choice for everyone. Also, we have been trying to let you know that NCSU, despite not being ranked like UNC, is still an excellent school. I’m not sure why you keep insisting you know more about the NC schools than the people who live here. When we give you information to broaden your knowledge of our schools, you dismiss it and come back with the “UNC is more prestigious argument”. It’s really quite baffling. </p>
<p>This post turned out a bit long…but it was quite therapeutic. :)</p>
<p>The OP has a third choice, which is to stay at UNCC. He will send his UNCC transcript to med school and his grades will not be calculated into the UNC or NCSU GPA.
What will he gain by transfering and what will he give up? Has he made connections with his volunteer activities or professors that will be interrupted?
IMHO, maybe it is time for a road trip to each school and a visit with a pre-med advisor at each one, get to know some students, and see what opportunities there are for him.
One possible reason to transfer is because there is the possibilty that any pre-med will not be accepted. What is the alternate plan, major, and institution the OP wants his diploma from? UNC-CH has extensive general ed requirements. Are there additional classes the OP may have to take there, and would he rather take those classes or different classes somewhere else?
IMHO it’s not all about one being “better” than the other. It’s which one the OP feel will help him meet his goals the best.</p>
<p>I’m a senior in high school and actually just had to make this same decision, UNCCH or NCSU. I’m planning on going to med school too so a good pre professional advising department was important. I initially thought that UNC was the clear choice, but after touring both colleges several times I’ve decided to go to State. The major factor that made me choose state was their Health PAC organization run by a woman called Dr. Flick. She seems to have a very well structured pathway for students planning on going into any kind of health care field (medicine, dentistry, optometry, etc). UNC’s pre-med advising committe on the other hand didn’t really seem to offer much guidance. I also think it that a good gpa would be more attainable at State, which is crucial for getting into med school.</p>