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<p>I don’t know how it will turn out; he did get into one fine school, but the aid offer made it impossible. I think he will at least take a gap year, but I can’t figure out why his outcome next year would be any different.</p>
<p>ClassicRockerDad
Haha, yea… i haven’t considered that part yet… Can you think of anything that I could possibly do that could offset this? I mean before this, I was planning on applying to many summer programs but it seems that its all hopeless… maybe getting a job might help?
Sigh…</p>
<p>UT84321</p>
<p>I assume you’re attending UT?
and when you say 13 colleges, were they ivy league level colleges?
man… I never thought I’d be in this situation…</p>
<p>I do not know the specifics of the list, but given that the unaffordable one he got into was Berkeley, I assume they were selective schools.</p>
<p>You know, I don’t really think writing an essay to show what you learned from the “experience” will be helpful. I mean, isn’t that just an easy way to get off the hook then? Why don’t we all cheat and then write in an essay how we learned the true value of academic integrity?</p>
<p>bsmd11
I’m not saying “lets all cheat and get away with it”
I’m saying that I did something wrong once, and that I’m not typically this type of a student. Through the essay, Im just hoping that they would see me under a different light. But if you want to take it that way… its your interpretation</p>
<p>It doesn’t hurt to apply to summer programs though it’s a bit late. There are many that would be happy to take your money. </p>
<p>Do you need financial aid? </p>
<p>I would make the following plan
- Talk to you guidance counselor. I don’t know if an essay about the issue is the best move. Seek more advice on CC, especially the Parents Forum.
- Pick a few reach and match schools and apply anyway. I could certainly be wrong.
- Pick a few schools that would otherwise be a safety and apply.
- Pick a few rolling admissions public schools and apply early. It would ease your mind to have something in the bag. Many of these I believe will let you in.
- Consider some top Canadian schools like McGill, Toronto or UBC. These are primarily numbers based. I’m not sure how they would view a cheating incident, but they are bureaucratic and public and they seem utterly incapable to making judgement calls. They are also relatively inexpensive and very high quality, though very impersonal.
- If you are full pay, consider some schools in the UK like St Andrews and Edinburgh. They need your money. </p>
<p>I think your admissions strategy will be the most successful with schools that need and would be happy to take your money, or those that would be happy to have someone with your stats to boost their numbers. Good luck.</p>
<p>I think the “I did something wrong “once”… and not “typically” this type of a student” is a contradiction. I would say it is clear that this may be your first time getting caught, but it does appear to be an ongoing issue… maybe random, but ongoing. I think ClassicRockerDad is right… you are giving schools reason to doubt your integrity and results of prior grades/scores/experiences.</p>
<p>They’re going to second guess your transcript. “Oh wow, his grades are really nice… wait, what? He cheated?” And who knows what will happen.</p>
<p>sMITten
But then what else should i do?
Should i just leave my admission information alone and just let them see that I have cheated without an explanation?</p>
<p>ClassicRockDad
I have applied to this apprenticeship program but i feel that if i am to be accepted, they would request for my transcript which would quickly change their mind…
I will definately talk to my guidance counselor as soon as i get the chance.
Also, even though the teachers know of my cheating incident, do you think they would think very differently of me? I mean they really like me and think of me as a very good student… Is there a chance that they may just disregard the cheating part and still believe that I am a honorable student?</p>
<p>Lullies
yeah… that’s what Im worried about… Im not sure what I can do that would minimize that kind of thought in their mind…</p>
<p>Don’t misunderstand me. I’m trying to explain to you what the colleges will interpret (if you want my interpretation of your cheating, there would be a lot more aggression in my post). </p>
<p>What do you do? We (at least I hope I’m speaking for everyone here) don’t really know because this kind of situation hasn’t happened to us. Talk to your counselor about it.</p>
<p>Honestly, BEG your administration not to put it on your transcript. Do whatever they ask, offer to sit in detention, do volunteer work, agree NEVER EVER to cheat again (really don’t) and if you’re someone whose never actually gotten into much trouble, maybe you’ll be able to get out of it. Everyone’s here is obviously going to say “accept the consequences etc take responsibility” and I agree completely. What you did was wrong, and you obviously realize that too (you seem remorseful), but you REALLY don’t want that on your transcript.</p>
<p>I knew a person who had the similar situation with a cheating record on their transcript. That person is now attending notre dame, don’t worry too much</p>
<p>People here are so annoying lol. SO many people in HS cheat.</p>
<p>@tb0mb93: I know, I don’t understand people here being so disdainful over something as simple as cheating. It’s hard for me to believe that no one on here cheats. It may just be my school, but it definitely isn’t that big of a deal. A lot of teachers just laugh it off when they see us doing it. It’s a daily thing at my school to cheat on homework, quizzes and even tests. I think it’s more horrible that some students face such harsh consequences for one lack of judgment, especially when other students at other schools get by with it daily. And I’m not saying I don’t cheat, I’m just saying that I can sympathize for the students who never do it, get caught the one time they do it, and then face extremely severe consequences.
Done with my rant.</p>
<p>Yes, the responses on here are quite surprising, considering the prevalence of cheating in high school. I think your school is really being a little too punitive. My school would probably just give you a zero on the test and leave it at that. See if there’s anyway for the school to remove this from your record, because you really don’t want colleges to see something like this.</p>
<p>Practically speaking, I would also definitely get an official copy and make sure that it’s actually ON the transcript before you go and start writing letters to colleges explaining it!</p>
<p>And I realize that this is the HS forum, and I believe what jonnathan says about the prevalence of cheating, but I’ve nonetheless told my D that I’d prefer that she fail than cheat. It’s much easier to recover from failure than to repair the damage from academic dishonesty. I believe that every successful person experiences failure, and the sooner you learn how to fail and recover, the sooner you’ll be able to be successful. </p>
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<p>There is a chance.</p>
<p>Well, today, my parents sent the principal a letter which I hope may convince them to consider an alternative method of punishment… I highly believe that this is unlikely though for my school is pretty strict…</p>
<p>ClassicRockerDad - I will check for it after a few days but for now, i dont think he put in the mark yet because the principal was in hurry to leave after school </p>
<p>and yea! I read all these articles about how majority of the students cheat in high school. But I dont want to tell them that that was my excuse for cheating nor do i want to sound like cheating is no big deal… So I’ll keep that information to myself and see how it goes…</p>
<p>Haha, begging… aghh I hope it works!! but its just that my school’s not lax about these stuff. They really enforce the rules so my chance of getting off lightly is very slim. but I will pray for something good to happen!</p>
<p>Is this so big of a deal? It’s not like this happened for the very first time in history of high school. I can understand that someone who cheats on a test gets a 0… However, this does not change the fact that someone tries really hard to be an honest and ‘good’ person. I dont know. In my school - in germany - people get caught cheating once in a while, and they won’t be taken to the principal.
Honestly, i think that this is something personal. If you can look in the mirror and not see yourself as ‘the cheater’ for the rest of your life… Youre probably fine then. I do not think this makes it so unreal that you could still get accepted at Stanford. Youre just a kid. And thats what Stanford will see. Some kid that was scared and under too much pressure. </p>
<p>You’ll be fine. </p>
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