Cheating on SAT Forum

What is the risk? Seems like there is no risk whatsoever. CC wouldn’t give out identifying info if College Board requested it, would they?

There appear to be no consequences for using CC to cheat…

I think cheating is part of life. Those kids who go on the Internet and post those questions are by every mean idiots.

I like the way you think intparent.

I’m in.

I actually started compiling a list this morning, haven’t checked back since then. Mods, what do you think?

@Intparent the users would just keep changing their login names.(creating new accounts) Those who want to cheat will always find a way.
I agree with you that violators have no fear of the consequences.

Don’t we have TOS about new names? I thought the mods had tools to detect them (although I admit that this is fuzzy knowledge, and maybe the tools aren’t as good as they used to be someone said recently, and not sure how they could work except maybe looking for email re-use)?

A brief shutdown would be pretty harmless (except for its impact on CC’s ad revenue, which I would guess is the real concern). And it’s hardly “fair” to the honest test takers for CC to enable cheating. In fact, I think it’s an embarrassment to CC’s brand to have one of its forums used openly as a cheating exchange.

The first administration of the new SAT will be in March. So the first int’l administration after that will have to be the March test, correct? So if CC allows discussion of the March SAT, they will allow a lot of int’ls to knowingly cheat. Does CC care? (Does Collegeboard care?)

@Roger_Dooley, can you weigh in?

Yes, it would be very helpful if @Roger_Dooley would let us know what CC’s ideas are on this issue of SAT cheating occurring within its “walls.”

What goes on at CC is tame compared to what goes on in other areas of the Interwebs. There is actually a FanDom for last year’s PSAT and memes based on certain “entertaining” questions appear often in various social media.

This is not CCs problem to solve.

Let them go to the other places on the web, then. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

It’s may not be CC’s problem, or not one that CC chooses to deal with.

But as a volunteer here, I think I’ll choose not to help anyone I’m aware of as a cheater.

Mods, I ask again. Is it okay to post s list of posters who are doing this?

I hardly think public shaming is the way to go… We don’t post lists of people who get too political or who make inflammatory statements or who share accounts or who commit any of CC’s other crimes.

ETA: Even if it were advisable, whose thankless job is it to create this list? To update it? Are these people blackballed forever, or do they get a second chance at using the site once a jury of their peers has deemed them worthy?

Speaking unofficially, I agree with @bodangles ; public shaming is not the way to go, and is incongruous with Terms of Service:

If an individual chooses not to help a poster, that’s an individual decision.

I went through yesterday morning and created a list of 34 posters who have violated the agreement they signed for the SAT since a reminder was posted on each thread where the cheating is taking place. These are only posters who actually asked or answered a specific question from the test. If anyone wants the list, I will PM it to them, so drop me a note if you want it. I still think It would be worthwhile to pursue banning posters who are using the site to cheat on standardized tests.

Are these students deliberately cheating or are they rehashing the test to try and determine which questions they got right? I know that either way it’s a violation of College Board policy, but I ask because perhaps if it was pointed out to them that other students could improperly benefit from seeing questions early and those students would then presumably gain a leg up to the posting students disadvantage (assuming that both sets of students would be applying to schools the same year and thus possibly competing against one another for the same slots), then perhaps the posters would be less likely to post.

Oh, it was pointed out. There were some snotty responses that they didn’t think they would be caught, and they went right on posting questions and answers.