cheating the application

<p>@kleew: MCAT is another thing. Anyone could easily study for that. </p>

<p>If there were no ethical issues to this, I would cheat for school tests and then just study for MCAT.</p>

<p>Yeah, I know a kid who claimed to be “Mexican” and really just lived there as an ex-pat for a few months. He got into Harvard too. It irks me, but I have to move on. I see the parents every now-and-then; they probably initiated the whole ruse, but I have to let it go. I remind myself, I can only control myself.</p>

<p>Do you guys really want to encourage people to cheat? </p>

<p>By suggesting/telling the OP to not do anything about this, you’re encouraging people to cheat on their applications. And this is highly unfair to people who actually deserve to get in.</p>

<p>What I don’t get is why on the “Getting out of ED” threads, all these people are going like don’t try to get out of ED, it’s unfair to other people. </p>

<p>And then on something as big as cheating college applications, people don’t take as big a stance on this.</p>

<p>if its just overexagerrating, just let it go. its not that big of a deal because most people exagerrate and in some ways anyway.</p>

<p>But if theyre putting stuff that they havent even done, that would tick me off too. Because its just not fair. Most likely, the admissions people arent gonna catch them and now theyre gonna have a better chance than you just because they lied. And unfortunately, they probably will get away with that. I think I would tell the counselor or someone. I dont know. I might just let it go but if you do tell, Just dont sound obnoxious when youre telling them haha</p>

<p>I read somewhere on CC that admission offices receive hundreds of accusations of cheating each year (sent in mostly by anonymous people), and they don’t consider these anonymous accusations at all since they could just be attempts to ruin reputations. So, if you want to report, you can’t be anonymous.</p>

<p>Also, colleges don’t like whiners/rats, so only report if you truly think their cheating is really bad. Just move on…</p>

<p>If you’re not applying to the same college, then just put your name on. </p>

<p>If you are, then ask a friend to report it for you.</p>

<p>Unfortunately in our world people are like this.
I think that you are above this and while it may be hard you should just move on.
This person will get it one day or another even if it’s not the way you want.
Unless they get in and you don’t it really should be your concern.</p>

<p>^Umm… then we might as well all cheat if it’s like this. Why not?</p>

<p>My IB Class of 2010 has full of cheaters. The more I learned to not care, the better I felt. Maybe you should do the same. There’s been bastards who barely studied, cheated on their test, and got better test cores than me, and even came up to me and went all “haha I beat you on the test!” They screwed up the curve a few times…But it didn’t matter: I made sure to study my ass off so they won’t affect me. You just can’t lose if you do this! </p>

<p>Better to play fair and lose than cheat and win.</p>

<p>You probably cheated on your application too. You did EC’s just so that they look good on your application when there are kids who do them because they want to and most of these don’t have 4.0 and they truely are good people, they are not doing it just to look good.</p>

<p>Doing something in order to impress others is cheating? That’s quite an innovative definition there.</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/yale-university/845267-violation-yale-scea-policy.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/yale-university/845267-violation-yale-scea-policy.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>this is how you do it.</p>

<p>^Not me… I’m very against doing EC’s for the sake of applications </p>

<p>Besides, doing EC’s just to look good on applications isn’t as bad as outright lying/exaggerating on the applications. At least you’re not actually lying. </p>

<p>Why let cheaters take the spot of people who actually deserves it?</p>

<p>I wouldn’t be surprised if the people who tells the OP to not tell on people cheated on the application themselves.</p>

<p>I understand the principle of “you shouldn’t tell on people any time they do anything wrong ever”. Because quite frankly, we all mess up occasionally, and it’s to nobody’s benefit for you to go say “TEACHER TEACHER FREDDY COPIED ONE OF 50 HOMEWORK PROBLEMS OFF OF GEORGE NOW YOU MUST SEND THEM BOTH TO THE DEAN”.</p>

<p>So it depends on what exactly the cheating entails. The guy exaggerated his EC hours a bit? Even if I thought anyone would listen to the complaint, I’d say not to bother. But if it’s more like the guy copied an old college essay to use as his own, then you should at least try to do something about it.</p>

<p>yes, we all mess up occasionally, but lying on a college application isn’t a typical mess up. </p>

<p>I thought the OP was talking more about making EC’s up or saying how he/she did so much stuff but didn’t actually do anything</p>

<p>To the OP, LOLhere, and everyone else who worries more about others than you do about yourself, eat more bran. You guys are so uptight it’s disgusting. It’s none of your business who cheats. When did God make you the Application Police? You’re just a bunch of crybaby whiners who justify their own shortcomings by imagining that anyone who does better than you must have cheated. </p>

<p>And are you telling us that you’ve never cheated? You’ve never asked a friend about a test, to see their homework, to help you gain an advantage over others? You’ve never lied? You never exaggerated an achievement? Unless you’re a perfect person, you’re a hypocrite. I hope you report the alleged cheating and the school to which you report accepts the “cheater,” gives him a full ride, and then takes your application and throws it away. No school wants someone like you on campus.</p>

<p>On the contrary, schools don’t want someone like YOU on campus. The Honor Code that you agree to at most places states that you will NOT go “well sure the guy cheated, but it’s downright disgusting to REPORT someone for cheating”. Where did you get the idea that authorities love it when you refuse to report people who do something wrong?</p>

<p>Having worked the last two summers at a major university, and having been surrounded by people (my sisters) who teach at schools like Stanford, I know what types of students schools like and those they do not. Anal-retentive dorks who run around screaming, “I’m gonna tell! I’m gonna tell!” each time they hear voices in their acne-scarred, disfigured skulls are exactly the types of students schools hate. Grow up and mind your own business! And as I said earlier, unless you’re perfect and have never cheated yourself, you shouldn’t be telling on others who you suspect have cheated.</p>

<p>There are some people such as you describe. Nobody likes them. We’re all aware of that fact.</p>

<p>But the people who come up with semantically and grammatically flawed sentences such as “Anal-retentive dorks who run around screaming, “I’m gonna tell! I’m gonna tell!” each time they hear voices in their acne-scarred, disfigured skulls are exactly the types of students schools hate.” ? They aren’t the people who are honestly concerned that hypervigilance about any infraction of the rules degrades the environment. They are the people who are highly emotionally invested in people NOT getting caught for cheating, because cheating to get ahead is the only thing they actually know how to do.</p>

<p>tl;dr : I’m sorry you’re incapable of doing crap honestly. Stop blaming the people who would like you to follow the rules.</p>