<p>If you found out someone that's cheating on their applications, should you notify someone--or would that just be evil in ruining there chances to so and so college? </p>
<p>For example, instead of a co-president position, she listed it as being the president. Also, instead of 200 hrs of community service, she added 50, making it 250.</p>
<p>Eh, it's horrible, but if I was in your position, I wouldn't be immature and be a snitch. Karma will get you in the end. :)</p>
<p>Wow, thats pretty stupid of her--those trivial "changes" aren't going to help her one bit.</p>
<p>Well I told some of my friends about it...maybe I shouldn't have done that either. I just have a big mouth. </p>
<p>-Thanks for the advice. I just got upset because I'm the other Co-president. But I'm not applying until next year anyways, so...meh.</p>
<p>i recall there being some debate on CC over whether putting "president" instead of "co-president" was dishonest. i think the majority agreed it wasn't; if she is one of the presidents, she is still "a" president.</p>
<p>250 hours over 200? What difference will that make?</p>
<p>If your both co-president's but you're not applying this year, why does it matter? It won't hurt your chances.</p>
<p>I'll bet there is not one single student who doesn't exaggerate their applications. Besides, do you seriously believe all the people who say they have worked over 1000 hours, yet had time to take 20+ AP classes, win 20 math competitions, make the IMO, make the International Chemical Olympiad and Physics Olympiad, get an All-American scholar, win Intel and Siemens-Westinghouse, while working for 4 universities each summer, with straight-A's and ranked number 1 in their school, with time to practice a musical instrument 4 hours each day, scoring perfect on the SATs and taking 3 SAT II's with 800 in each, started 10+ clubs, presidents in 5 of them and vice-president or founders in the other 5, while still having time to volunteer at the children's hospital while delivering newspapers every night? Unless they are taking psychotropic drugs to enhance their brain or have a time machine to put 500 more hours in each day, no one has that much energy. C'mon guys.</p>
<p>My counselor wrote on my letter of reccomendation that I was president of student council when in reality I was only VP ... i told her, and she squished in a v. before the president.
I'd say just talk to the girl about it. Tell her, it's not gonna help you in the long run, etc, etc... it'll clear your consciounce (crap i can't spell)</p>
<p>"I'll bet there is not one single student who doesn't exaggerate their applications. "</p>
<p>Sigh, one can always tell people who do things like cheat or steal. They are the ones insisting that of course, everyone cheats or steals.</p>
<p>I would bet all of my $ that there are students who don't lie on their applications. I've lived with some. These are the type of students who don't put down some activities because they don't think that they did enough on them to mention those activities. The students also will meticulously count up hours on things like ECs to make sure that they aren't putting down too much.</p>
<p>Back to the OP's situation: Your acquaintance is wasting her time. The things that she's lying about won't do anything for her. I doubt that colleges care if she had 200 or 250 hours of community service. What colleges care about is what she accomplished in her community service.</p>
<p>The kinds of lies that could tip a person in are lies about accomplishments that are so impressive that the lies are likely to be discovered.</p>
<p>Keta, you exaggerate by combining all the godly stats possibly (c'mon, no one really started 10 clubs; you exaggerate), but believe it or not, some people really do work in godly ways. They can do it, and so they do. I realized that some people really are a breed apart, and can somehow make their 24 hours into much more. And they are always the ones who truly impress me.</p>
<p>dude who cares what other people do?
in our school, people are so relaxed that they don't even look at each other's resume. all of y'all should be chill. college is just a process. few more activities aren't gonna better your life.</p>
<p>SourApplezz-grow up.</p>
<p>JackJackson - don't be rude, the OP just values honesty.</p>
<p>however, I dont think those things are big enough to significantly increase her chance of getting into colleges. and since you aren't applying this year, and it wont hurt you, why go through the trouble?</p>
<p>I guess in theory a co-president is a president. It seems as if she was just adding some padding to her stats. Not a great idea, since she's taking a big risk and is really not helping her own cause. Likewise, I don't think you should bother trying to get her caught. That'd reflect somewhat poorly on you, since you went out way to bring her down.</p>
<p>Co-President and President is not a big difference at all. She IS the President, just one of two. Likewise, 200 to 250 hours is NOT a big deal in the scheme of things. She's only satisfying herself, the university won't give a damn.</p>
<p>I know how you feel, sourapplezz. One of my friends has already told me that next year, he's planning to put 80 hours of community service a year down for a club of which he is not even a member of (and which I hope to become president of next year, having actually put forth hundreds of hours of community service). To top it off, he plans on going to one of those sites where you pay somebody to write an admissions essay for you. I guess there really is nothing to do about it, but it does annoy me when I spend 20 hours a day everyday doing a bunch of stuff and not having enough time to even sleep while people like him just sit around playing CS all day.</p>
<p>Saying you're president when you're a co-president isn't really lying though, because she does have responsibility. If she weren't even on board though, it'd be a different story.</p>
<p>Hey all! I understand the reaction here... It's fun talking about the moral aspects of what this person did - yada, yada yada... yes, of course it is wrong to lie... few people don't lie at all in their lives, some people lie a little and some people lie a lot... that's life, that's reality, BUT, the OP's question was: should he/she NOTIFY SOMEONE about it. My answer is NO... it's none of your business... you are not the college/application police. You can talk about the moral issue with your friends and family - and as you've done here by posting the question, prove to the world how horrible and unethical you think this person is (and in the process, make sure you know the world KNOWS how honorable YOU ARE by denouncing what this person has done)... but I repeat: that's life... that's reality.... get used to it... it's probably one of the most insignificant things in YOUR life!</p>
<p>:-)</p>
<p>I mentioned on my app that I was the founder and president of the Model UN club in 11th grade. I had transferred between 3 schools in my high school career so my counselor really didnt know too much about my achievements from my junior year (which was at a dif. school). I forgot to mention it to him as well, so he didnt mention it in his rec. Should I get him to fax in a statement saying I was actually the president/founder of the club?</p>
<p>I dont thnk that person who lied was making a huge lie, you know what I mean? I know one girl who blatantly lied on her applications, about how she was on 6 varsity sports and captain of all the teams. Now THAT's just reckless. </p>
<p>Also, I don't like on my application. I don't lie/cheat about anything (everybody lies, but I guess I mean about major things). Not everybody lies on their applications, you know. The argument that "everybody does it" is petty.</p>
<p>If it was something more major, I would notify somebody about it. People who don't deserve to get in.. shouldn't. It's just that simple. How would you feel if somebody who lied on their application got in over you? I value honesty very highly, as you can tell, and I think that if someone puts crap like that on their application (as far as major things) he/she should get caught.</p>