Chem 1A vs. Physics 7A for Freshman Fall Schedule

<p>Hello Everyone!</p>

<p>I am a newly admitted freshman for the class of 2017. I am currently in L&S but I would like to minor in EES or IEOR. Below is my ideal freshman schedule:</p>

<p>Math 53 (scored a 5 on Calculus BC)
Econ 100A (scored a 5 on Micro & Macroeconomics)
Chem 1A (Chem is never my favorite subject) vs. Physics 7A (I took AP Physics C in HS and hopefully I scored a 5) vs. E7 (I know how to use MATLAB, but will it help?)
R&C B or L&S C180T (if I scored a 5 on AP Lit)</p>

<p>I think I will take E7 later since I heard taking it in spring is easier. I cannot decide between Chem 1A and Physics 7A for fall. And Berkeley's horror stories about falling freshman year really scares me...Please help! THANKS!!!</p>

<p>You may want to take Economics 101A (wait until you complete Math 53) or 101B instead of 100A, since you presumably enjoy math.</p>

<p>Is your major economics or physics? What is “EES”?</p>

<p>Chemistry 1A is not needed for the economics or physics majors or the IEOR minor. If you are a physics major, taking Physics 7A or H7A is more helpful (it starts off a six course long prerequisite sequence).</p>

<p>Take Physics 7A. Chem 1A is easier in spring semester.</p>

<p>Thanks for the comments! Really appreciate them. EES is environmental engineering science and IEOR is industrial engineering. They both look interesting. So Physics 7A in fall and Chem 1A in spring? Thanks!!</p>

<p>Environmental engineering science does not have an official minor. The major in that subject requires Chemistry 1A/1AL or 4A (see page 28 of <a href=“http://coe.berkeley.edu/students/COE_Announcement_2012-2013.pdf[/url]”>http://coe.berkeley.edu/students/COE_Announcement_2012-2013.pdf&lt;/a&gt; ).</p>

<p>If you just want to take elective courses in the subject, then look up the courses you are interested in and consider the prerequisite sequences. Depending on which courses are of interest, you may not even need a chemistry course.</p>

<p>There is a minor in environmental engineering (at Berkeley, it is a subarea of civil engineering, distinct from environmental engineering science) described here: <a href=“http://www.ce.berkeley.edu/system/files/assets/aao/ENVMinor_Instruc_F10.pdf?destination=system%2Ffiles%2Fassets%2Faao%2FENVMinor_Instruc_F10.pdf[/url]”>http://www.ce.berkeley.edu/system/files/assets/aao/ENVMinor_Instruc_F10.pdf?destination=system%2Ffiles%2Fassets%2Faao%2FENVMinor_Instruc_F10.pdf&lt;/a&gt; . It requires Chemistry 1A/1AL-1B or 4A-4B.</p>

<p>If you intend to be a physics major, you should prioritize taking Physics 7A-7B-7C or H7A-H7B-H7C in order to be able to take upper division physics courses. The six semester long prerequisite sequence is 7A-7B-7C-137A-111-111.</p>

<p>Thanks, ucbalumnus! I am actually an intended Econ major :P</p>

<p>Note that if you are interested in IEOR, you may also want to consider the ORMS major, an L&S major that is administered by the IEOR department. However, it is a capped major.</p>

<p>[Undergrad</a> Academic Programs](<a href=“http://www.ieor.berkeley.edu/AcademicPrograms/Ugrad/index.htm]Undergrad”>http://www.ieor.berkeley.edu/AcademicPrograms/Ugrad/index.htm)</p>

<p>The ORMS major requires Economics 101A, not 100A. 101A-101B is also preferred over 100A-100B if you want to go on to a PhD program in economics.</p>

<p>Thanks for the insight, ucbalumnus! You are so helpful! I am thinking about MBA for grad school but I don’t really like the idea of having an undergrad major in business. For econ course, should I take Macro or Micro in the fall? Again, thank you!</p>

<p>Given your liking of math, I suggest that you take 101A-101B instead of 100A-100B. Since 101A lists Math 53 as a prerequisite, it is best to take 101B now and then take 101A after taking Math 53.</p>

<p>Note that L&S C180T is also German C109. But they are different scheduling buckets, so if one is full, see if you can add the other.</p>

<p>Thank you, ucbalumnus! You help me a lot :smiley: So my new ideal schedule:
Math 53
Econ 101B
Physics 7A or E 7 (hmm…)
R&C B or L&S C180T (if I scored a 5 on AP Lit)</p>

<p>How does this look? THANKS!!!</p>

<p>No first semester freshman can take ECON 100/101AB. You just wont get in. Trust me, I was in the same boat (math/econ double)</p>

<p>Sounds reasonable, if you can get into the courses (it looks like pux3940 is correct about Economics 100/101 A/B being full; the only open spaces are for students with a class entry code, which is used for new junior transfer students majoring in economics). Make a list of alternative courses in case you cannot get into your desired ones. Some examples:</p>

<p>Math 54 or H54 (53 and 54 can be taken in either order, or concurrently)
Physics H7A (less impacted than 7A)
Statistics 134 or IEOR 172 (for economics major, ORMS major, or IEOR minor)
German C109 (same as L&S C180T, but different scheduling buckets)
all possible R&C B courses (if you need R&C B)
courses that can fulfill L&S breadths that you won’t automatically cover with your major</p>

<p>Note that Physics 7A and Engineering 7 are not required for the IEOR minor or ORMS major.</p>

<p>Thank you, people!!! Oh no…I didn’t know that Econ 100/101 series are hard to get in for freshmen. Many thanks for the information! Also, thanks for the schedule, ucbalumnus! Would you recommend Math 53, 54, or H54 for my fall semester? I took AP Stats this year and I thought it was easy, so will it help for my Stats course at Cal? Again, thank you both for the information you have given me!!!</p>

<p>If you want to take honors math, H54 is offered in the fall and H53 is usually offered in the spring. If you just want to get the prerequisite for Economics 101A done as soon as possible, then you need to take 53 as soon as possible. Note that for 54 or H54, you may have to self-study some introductory differential equations material from 1B if your high school AP calculus course did not have it.</p>

<p>Expect Statistics 134 or IEOR 172 to go into probability theory much more deeply and with more math than AP statistics did.</p>

<p>If you can make a list of courses larger than the number of courses you want to take, then you can have more flexibility of course selection at registration time in case some courses are full.</p>

<p>Got it. Thanks! You have been more than helpful!!!</p>