<p>Hey guys,
So I'm an incoming freshman in the college of engineering! I'm hoping to be a chemical engineer, which requires organic chemistry at UM.
Though I received a 3 on the AP Chem exam, I received a 92% on the chemistry placement during orientation and my adviser recommended that I take organic chemistry as soon as possible.</p>
<p>My schedule:
Math 156 (the applied honors engineering class)
Chem 210 (lecture)
Chem 211 (this is the lab class)
Engr 101 (programming)</p>
<p>I'm actually wondering if it would be possible to manage all of those classes together? I got a 4 on the BC calc exam back in junior year (so therefore I have to take a calc 2 class) and I tried taking some classes at a local CC, but really, I have forgotten a LOT of Calc II material. How many hours of studying can you expect for this math class--and is this class individually-based? </p>
<p>Would this schedule be okay, especially as I am taking organic chemistry and the applied math class the same semester? If not, should I switch down to regular Math 116? </p>
<p>Finally, I have had no programming experience before in my life--I'm thinking that I will be spending a lot of time on that class. </p>
<p>So combined with my background level of the aforementioned classes, could someone give me some advice and tell me if my schedule is decent/not too overbearing and is completely doable?</p>
<p>I'm on a scholarship so I have to maintain a 3.0 GPA--a pretty tight leash as well, haha.</p>
<p>I think this schedule is fine as long as you’re willing to commit the time. This means you can’t party every weekend. Believe it or not, the applied math series is much easier and has a kinder curve than the regular math series (i myself took 115 and then 156). Orgo is a difficult but manageable class, and 101 can’t be too bad. I took EECS 183 without any programming experience and managed to do well with a lot of office hours and such (i hear 101 is easier? can anyone back me up on this…)</p>
<p>anyways, good luck! don’t blow it. mistakes early on will come back to haunt you later.</p>
<p>^^ Not necessarily true. The honors math series isn’t necessarily easier nor does it have a kinder curve (this was true in my case). Started with Math 256 - no curve. Took Math 215 in the spring - huge curve (75% for an A-). Engr101 depends on the person, you’ll either hate it or you’ll love it. I’m not a programming person, and as such I hated it. Chem 210/211 I believe will either make or break your grades.</p>
<p>I’ve heard some conflicting things, and as no one has taken both it’s hard to really say, but I’m inclined to believe 183 is indeed harder than 101. Either way, 101 isn’t hard even without experience.</p>
<p>I’m not sure, but I remember a while ago I heard they stepped up the difficulty of the honors classes, so some of the information about the X5X intro calc series being easier than the X1X series might be outdated. I’ve mostly heard bad things about X1X series though about how there’s a lot of annoying “group” assignments and how it’s poorly organized.</p>
<p>I personally had a hard time with Orgo but a lot of people find it to be very easy. It just depends on the person. Either way, it’s very different than HS gen chem in terms of the material and the skills utilized. I don’t think how well you understand gen chem is a good indicator of how well you will do in Orgo.</p>
<p>That exact set of classes (often with an additional class, an SS or HU usually) is very common for 1st semester prospective ChemEs. You should manage it fine.</p>
<p>It’s hard to tell you cause I really don’t know what the type of person you are. For me I took orgo/Engr 101/math 215 all in the first semester… bad decision. Orgo is a class where there is no homework, but the exams are very hard. I really wasn’t prepared for the college coursework, and I didn’t spend that much time doing Orgo as I should’ve and then I crammed for my exams and did awful. I now know what it takes to do well in college, but first semester I did not and I learned from my mistakes. I do not recommend taking a difficult first semester, because you are adjusting to college lifestyle & course load. But if you are sure that you can put the time and effort into your coursework you will be fine. don’t cram, you can’t do what you did in high school anymore. Go to class, and I also recommend joining and SLC study group for orgo, I think it definitely helps (the professor will talk to you about it). Just my take on the whole thing, I still managed to get a 3.1 first semester once I figured it out towards the end of the semester… so yeah.</p>