<p>@chemistrywarrior: dude, yes!</p>
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<p>if you don’t believe me, just go to a random med school’s admissions requirements. it’ll say a full year of general chemistry. some specifically state that AP classes cannot be used to fulfill this requirement.</p>
<p>Well I like all three so it looks like I’ll take both of them 
Thanks for all of your help astrina!</p>
<p>@chemistrywarrior:
I’m pretty sure what astrina’s saying is that in order to go pre-med, a full year of general chemistry is required. Therefore you need to take the 6abc or 6ah,bh,ch series in order to go premed, regardless of if you are exempted or not.</p>
<p>@astrina</p>
<p>what did u get for chem 6ah?</p>
<p>a B+</p>
<p>although I think you’re just being nosy at this point …</p>
<p>about what percent of the class got A’s?</p>
<p>btw its not being nosy, not only do i not even know you irl, i dont really care on the personal level.</p>
<p>im just trying to get the most accurate information so i can make the proper decsions</p>
<p>if it bothers you u dont have to answer my questions…</p>
<p>For someone “trying to get the most accurate information,” asking 1 student in a class of 90 is an interesting way to go about it. </p>
<p>(I still think it’s being nosy, but who cares. I tend to insult everyone.)</p>
<p>The registrar’s office used to publish official grade distributions. They stopped sometime in 2010/2011. Your best bet now is CAPE ([CAPE](<a href=“http://www.cape.ucsd.edu/]CAPE[/url]”>http://www.cape.ucsd.edu/)</a>), but all the information is self-reported and the responses are only tabulated from the students who attended lecture. In some classes, lecture attendance can fall under 50% of enrolled students.</p>
<p>@Astrina: If someone got a 4 or 5 on the AP Chem test, you said that it would be an easy A+. Is that really or was that exaggeration to get your point across about avoiding the honors series as a premed?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>@Astrina:</p>
<p>They stopped reporting in 2010/2011, but they recently started doing this again. Here is the link to the new grade distribution tool: [UC</a> San Diego Associated Students - GradeDistribution](<a href=“http://as.ucsd.edu/gradedistribution]UC”>AS One - University of California San Diego)</p>
<p>The regular chem 6 series is not any harder than the AP chem curriculum. If you’re capable of a 5, you have learned everything necessary to net you an A in chem 6. Boosting yourself to an A+ requires that you actually remember how to apply your knowledge. But compared to the other students, you’ve already been presented with all the necessary information. </p>
<p>Same is true of folks who scored a 4. You likely have a strong foundation in chemistry, but may be missing pieces here and there. The amount of work required to get you an A/A+ is much, much less than someone who didn’t take an AP-style curriculum in high school and started with chem 6A at UCSD.</p>
<p>It’s worth noting that when the chem department was reviewing various genchem textbooks and deciding which one to adopt for the chem 6 series to replace jones/atkins, there were several AP-level textbooks to pick from. In fact, Silberberg is the one they’re using right now and it’s on this list: [AP</a> Chemistry: Example Textbook List](<a href=“College Board - SAT, AP, College Search and Admission Tools”>AP Chemistry Course Audit – AP Central | College Board)</p>
<p>@tungtied - thanks for the link! we should just copy and paste it into any thread that asks for professor recommendations from now on. :)</p>
<p>@astrina: Thanks so much for that info. But I just realized: if I already received a high score on the AP exam, I can’t take the class for credit and the grade I get won’t even matter. :[</p>
<p>Does the chem 6A 6B 6C come with labs for each quarter? (6AL 6BL 6CL) What about Ochem and BILD? Thanks!</p>
<p>The grade won’t count for your UC-GPA, but some med schools calculate grades differently. In any case, you need the class (and grade) for your applications. </p>
<p>There’s 7L with a minimum prereq of 6B (but 6C is recommended). 100A has a minimum prereq of 6C and 7L, but this class is composed mostly of chem majors. </p>
<p>ochem has 143A-143D. only 143A is needed for med school. the others are designed for chem majors.</p>
<p>lots of bio labs available, but they’re all upper-division.</p>
<p>check out the course catalog for class offerings and descriptions.</p>
<p>Thank you so much, Astrina. You have been such a huge help. So I need to retake Chem, with 7L, take 140A-C and 143A. Should I just AP out of BILD and take upper division with their corresponding labs? Is there anything in BILD that I could benefit from as far as MCAT’s go? I don’t want to take unnecessary units.</p>
<p>Thanks so much x9999999!</p>
<p>Pretty much. [Revelle</a> College: Academic Information, Pre-Med, Pre-Law](<a href=“http://revelle.ucsd.edu/academics/acad-info/pre-med-law.html]Revelle”>http://revelle.ucsd.edu/academics/acad-info/pre-med-law.html) lists the general overview (it’s not college-specific), make sure to look at the brochure link too. </p>
<p>And uh, I wasn’t premed. No idea about the MCATs, never took BILD. But if some schools require 1 year of lower-division (aka general) biology, then you’ve got to do the same thing with the chem exemptions. From what I hear, many schools allow you to substitute in a year of biochem or upper-division bio, though. You’ll need to do some research, possibly on CC’s premed forum for the best advice.</p>
<p>Thank you! =)</p>
<p>Hi (sorry for hijaking this thread :/)
but what are the chances of me being able to take the general chemistry series if i got a 5 on the ap exam? Like will my counselor not let me (ive been accepted to muir if it has any effect)? When i went to triton day some lady at an academic advising table was pretty blunt when she told me i absolutely couldnt take the general series…but after reading through some posts im under the impression that i still can…i just wont get credit and stuff. i dont think that lady was a counselor or anything so im not too sure if she was informed enough to make an accurate statement.</p>
<p>@Laptop1: UCSD has a very strict policy for retaking classes: JUST DON’T. </p>
<p>You can, but they discourage it.</p>
<p>@laptop1 - are you pre-med/dental/etc? if so, go to the first post in this thread and start reading.</p>
<p>in short: you can take whatever you want. but ucsd won’t give you a second round of credit (meaning it doesn’t count towards your GPA) if you’ve already got the AP scores</p>
<p>someone asked me via pm about the brief overview of the course’s topic. I will just post it here so people can see what it’s like.</p>
<ul>
<li>Chemical bonding (barely touched)</li>
<li>Coulomb’s law</li>
<li>screening effect</li>
<li>bunch of wave theories
electromagnetic and blackbody radiation </li>
<li>Bohr’s Model</li>
<li>eigen functions.</li>
<li>Hamiltonian</li>
<li>Schrodinger equation</li>
<li>Heinsberg uncertainty </li>
<li>diffraction refraction </li>
<li>particle in boxes </li>
<li>harmonic oscillators </li>
<li>finding quantum numbers (not like how chem AP does it. finding them with wave functions and the likes)</li>
<li>MO theories</li>
</ul>
<p>basically a brief overview. don’t want to go into too detail and end up giving too much away… but basically chem 6AH is about getting you familiarize with quantum mechanics</p>