<p>Well, I'm not going to say "easily" but with your stats I think you could be competitive for some merit aid at Minnesota. Check out this link:</p>
<p>[Scholarships[/url</a>] </p>
<p>(Note also the college-specific scholarships, listed under te "Institute of Technology," Minnesota's name for its engineering school).</p>
<p>Also note that out-of-state ("nonresident") tuition is currently $12,500/year ($6,250/semester X 2), or about $20,000 less than at many top private schools. So in a sense that's the equivalent of a $20,000 merit scholarship right off the top.</p>
<p>I wouldn't recommend Minnesota for undergrad education in many arts and sciences disciplines where it's really more graduate-school oriented (though its undergrad division is improving. But its engineering school is really very strong and in chemical engineering especially it's one of the very top programs in the country, as all of the above lists indicate. And it's a dirt-cheap bargain in comparison to its competitors.</p>
<p>Minnesota's ChemE program is top notch, and the graduate program is tied with MIT at first I think. But the best thing about it is, there are a TON of fortune 500 companies near by to recruit Chemical and Biomedical engineering grads. Metronics, Cargill, 3M, etc.</p>
<p>Hmmm thank you for all your advices! I'll consider it. Have been kinda overlooking Minnesota. will be considering it for real now.</p>
<p>but the thing is in Asia I still think they don't know much about Minnesota. They only know about all those top prestigious unis like MIT, Stanford, Harvard, etc. Despite the strong ChemE programme in Minnesota I'm still worried about my prospects in the future.</p>
<p>Again thank you bclintonk, DunninLA and Silverzc143!</p>
<p>last thing: do I have any chances at all in Stanford EA? If I'm not wrong Minnesota doesn't have an early admission program?</p>
<p>Now DunninLA I'm not Pete but I can't help mentioning a few reasons why I would suggest Stanford ChemE over Berkeley. Now first let me say that I think that UCB ChemE is absolutely amazing. Hell one of my dreams is to be accepted there for graduate school! That said I would still suggest Stanford undergrad for pete for a bunch of reasons:</p>
<p>1- It is so much easier to change majors at Stanford. You don't even need to declare until the beginning of your Junior year!! That's simply not the case at UCB where it is much harder especially if you want to get into majors like EE/CS. Also all the other majors at Stanford are similarly top notch.
2-Classes are smaller and most classes have less than 20 ChemE students in total which means that by the end of your four years you'll have gotten to know most of profs pretty well (Stanford ChemE is on a first name basis so you'll be calling your profs Stacey and Tom).
3-You're an international which means that you'll be paying out of state tuition and your chances of getting into UCB are significantly smaller than those of in state students.</p>
<p>superwizard -- you forgot another good reason... if I recall correctly, at Stanford one can drop a class up until 5pm the day before the Final Exam is scheduled. </p>
<p>That is what I meant, among other things, when I wrote "because academically Stanford is easier".</p>
<p>pete -- no. Equally comprehensive, equally rewarding.. depending on your personal reaction to competition... there is more competition at Berkeley, so if you have a really good gpa at Berkeley, it is more rewarding than a really good gpa at Stanford.</p>
<p>Depends where in Asia you end up. Minnesota has particularly strong ties to China, with more than 8,000 alumni there, including many in prominent positions in business, academia, and government, and there are currently about 1200 Chinese students on campus (at all levels), more than any other U.S. university. Minnesota's ties to China go back about a century:</p>
<p>But it may be less well known elsewhere in Asia. I think if you get into Berkeley or Stanford you should probably go there (assuming you can afford it), because the prestige value of the school's nameplate will serve you well anywhere in the world. I'm only suggesting Minnesota as a "safety." But in your field it's about as strong and as affordable a safety as you could ever hope to find.</p>
<p>Appreciate the info as my d's strongly considering chem E for her major, and she doesn't want to go too far from home. So seeing UF up on that list makes us feel pretty good about her choice. :)</p>
<p>I would look beyond just the top-24 especially if financing is an issue. Consider schools like Rose-Hulman. Also, Harvey Mudd may not have a ChemE major, but its general Engineering is fantastic. Note that the Gourman rankings are 10 years old.</p>
<p>From UIUC website:
What percentage of undergraduates are from out-of-state?
Approximately 10 percent of our undergraduates are nonresidents. Out-of-state students are evaluated against the same criteria used for in-state students.</p>
<p>means no cap for OOS students?</p>
<p>oh and what's cornell's chemE program like? worth a shot?</p>
<p>DunninLA I've never heard of anyone withdrawing a class the day before the final but I mean I know that the drop deadline is around the 4th week of the quarter (which is pretty late considering that the quarter is only 10 weeks) and that after that you have to withdraw which gives you a W on your transcript that doesn't look too good. You could try to get an incomplete and take the final a later quarter but that would involve getting the teacher's permission. In general though teachers tend to be very supportive and there's a whole network built to help students when they need help. Teachers are usually nice and understanding and easily give extensions and if they don't there are actually people you can talk to who will step in and talk to the teacher for you (sorry my knowledge about all this is fuzzy I've never been through this process!). </p>
<p>I can't talk about UCB because I've honestly never taken a class there but we definitely have a lot of competition here. It is true that we have rather decent grade inflation and that definitely helps but so many of the people I know are uber type A must get an A in this class.</p>
<p>I doubt its academically less rigorous though. What I think is probably true is the fact that we probably take less in the major classes at Stanford. Stanford definitely has a liberal arts mentality which means that it places more emphasis on breadth then its peers like MIT and Caltech.</p>
<p>You can't drop a class the day before the final anymore? When did that change?</p>
<p>Yes, I see you're right. I checked the registrar's calendar and the last day to drop classes without any evidence of having been enrolled is about the end of week 4. Well, I'm old now. It might have changed 20 years ago for all I know!</p>