<p>stratt, sweigart, and bazemore-walker are teaching chem 33 this year… any opinions on which is the best? i looked on critical review and ratemyprofessors but they didn’t tell me much. also, if i didn’t get into stratt’s class (i heard he’s better than the others) should i still try to get in? i’m definitely going to shop all sections but i’m just looking for personal opinions.</p>
<p>Stratt, IMO, is one of the best professors at Brown, easily.</p>
<p>all right. how much better is stratt than sweigart/bazemore-walker? a lot, or are they somewhat close? and how are sweigart and bazemore-walker in comparison with each other?</p>
<p>thanks modest.</p>
<p>Never had Sweigart or Bazemore-Walker, they’re both inorganic chemist that started teaching lower level courses after I had taken them.</p>
<p>Stratt is simply phenomenal. I had him for Quantum Mechanics as well as Thermodynamics and Statistical Mechanics, and he was so good that people who were not chemistry concentrators flocked to his class because of his reputation. At what kind of school does PChem become very popular for people who don’t need it? Brown, alongside a professor like Stratt.</p>
<p>I would beg, cheat, or steal to get into his 33 section, which, while it will be a large lecture versus the small classes I had with him, I’m sure it’ll be phenomenal. He has a really talent for teaching.</p>
<p>Purely out of interest, what was your major, modestmelody?</p>
<p>Chemistry.</p>
<p>searching on this forum told me that rose-petruck is a bad lecturer but that the class is really easy… if i take rose-petruck’s class in the spring, will i be screwing myself over for chem 35 because i won’t have learned as much?</p>
<p>Hey, I’m in the class of '11 and I took chem 33 when rose-petruck, jimmy doll, and bazemore-walker all taught it. I had it with Rose-Petruck, and his tests were really easy - except for the final, which was somewhat difficult. His lectures after the first one were awful - he gave us this beautiful speech on the first day about teaching us how to be successful scientists, learn how to learn and all that jazz, and it was terrible thereafter. Bazemore-walker, from what I heard from my friends, simply copied notes from the book verbatim and refused to curve the first test (they all offer different tests, unlike in orgo, where the sections all have the same test at the same time) despite the fact that everyone got a C. </p>
<p>I have not heard of the other guy, but you might want to check ratemyprofessors.com or thecriticalreview.org (the latter being a Brown publication where students rate courses) to see if he’s listed there. </p>
<p>Chem 33 will not in any way link up with what you learn in Chem 35, at least in my experience. Chem 33 material only comes in handy on the MCAT, so if you’re pre-med and don’t have a decent AP Chem background, taking it from the harder but better professor might be good for you.
Hope that helps!</p>
<p>Also, 35 is not offered in the fall as far as I know, so you’ll be messing yourself up for the sequence if you take 33 in spring.</p>
<p>However, good knowledge of Chem 33 material is not necessary for success in orgo.</p>
<p>Also, Rose-Petruck’s exams are the easiest because they do not extend beyond the AP exam at all, so in my experience people who took and did well in AP Chem would go into his class because it was the same thing and easy for them regardless of whatever was being taught. I had Rose-Petruck for a higher level class and thought he was very good in that class, however, I’m unsure of how good his lectures are in 33.</p>
<p>When I took 33 I took it with Moulton, because having had AP and being a prospective chem concentrator, I wanted a more challenging and thought provoking class and his certainly delivered.</p>
<p>all right. thanks so much guys!</p>
<p>Has there always been a required pre-req for chem33? I’m on banner now and there are mandatory pre-reqs–should I email the professor now or wait until first day of classes next semester for an override? Last semester, I remember just being able to sign up for the class with no problems…</p>
<p>Chem33 with prereq? Never heard of that. Get the override now, but I may need to look into that more.</p>
<p>All is well! I emailed Stratt maybe 25 minutes ago and got a response with an override a few minutes later. I have no idea why Chem33 has a pre-req, but maybe that explains why so few people are currently pre-registered for it? But I’m all set–thanks!</p>
<p>Oh, one question though: The way my schedule is organized has forced me to have the pre-lab on Wednesdays and the actual lab on Fridays. I know this is technically fine, but is there any disadvantage to having the pre-lab and lab on separate days?</p>
<p>Chem33 should have Chem10 or equivalent as a prereq, but Chem10 is pretty easy to get out of. I don’t know if it was formally listed as a pre-req on Banner in the past, but that was theoretically the policy before.</p>
<p>Rose-Petruck is not a bad lecturer! I had him for Chem 33 and loved his lectures. When I took it (after having completed AP chem), the first midterm was pretty easy, but the second midterm and final both had a few questions I found difficult. I definitely learned at least some things from his class that I hadn’t learned in AP chem.</p>
<p>thecomisar: You are a genius! Ahh, thank you so much! I really wanted to take chem33 with Rose-Petruck, but couldn’t because it conflicted with another class that I need for my second concentration…buuuutttt, just discovered that by replacing that other class with Rose-Petruck and removing Stratt’s section on MWF, I can actually take A class pertaining to my second concentration anyway! So, it’s a win-win situtaion—take chem with the more “easy”-going prof (so I hear) and knock out another concetration requirement at the same time! I’ll definitely consider!</p>
<p>Great, I hope it works out for you!</p>
<p>(On a side note, Rose-Petruck also has a German accent, which makes everything better :D)</p>
<p>My mom found this Chem0100 online course that you can take over summer if you want to place directly into Chem0330 in the fall without having taken the AP test. </p>
<p><a href=“Home | Chemistry | Brown University”>Home | Chemistry | Brown University;
<p>And it’s free!</p>
<p>It’s worth noting that older students may also do this program (though they may need permission to do so).</p>
<p>^Yep yep! E-mailed Russo-Rodriguez a few weeks ago and she said “though it’s primarily for incoming students, current students should email [her] around early June for the link.”</p>