Chemical engineering undergrad options

My son is a rising senior, and he has decided that he is interested in chemical engineering. I do not know much about engineering programs and his guidance counselor is not certain about them either, so I figured I would post in here.

He has a 3.5 GPA (Unweighted-weighted is probably around a 4.0), an 1870 SAT (which he will be retaking), and has been working a 20 hour a week job throughout high school.

Finances are a large concern-we have an older daughter in college as well. We can probably afford to pay 10,000 a year.

He will be applying to our state schools that offer Engineering degrees (Massachusetts), but we were wondering if there were any other options.

Thank you for your time

Chem eng is pretty brutal, is he taking a rigorous course load (math, sciences ) for that GPA? Can he work less hours and study to get his SAT to be more competitive for engineering? 10 more hours a week to study would help his GPA and SAT.

Try the net price calculators on some prospective schools (in-state public, private, etc.) to get an idea what may be affordable on need-based financial aid (reme#latestmber also to try the scenario after your daughter graduates). If that ends up looking unfeasable financially, a merit-scholarship-seeking strategy would be warranted. Be sure to let him know the financial constraints early on (using conservative estimates – it is easier to be more generous later than to have to back out of a promise later), so that he can make the appropriate application list, rather than applying to a bunch of unaffordable schools and getting the let-down in April when most or all of his acceptances are unaffordable.

As far as academic preparation, how is he doing in high school math, physics, and chemistry, and is he taking the most rigorous course options in those subjects?

http://automaticfulltuition.yolasite.com/ lists a few big automatic merit scholarship schools with chemical engineering that his stats may qualify for. Of course, higher grades and test scores can open up more possibilities.

Well, you have two very good choices at your public universities in Massachusetts. UMass-Lowell engineering has a lot of admirers of its rigorous hands-on education. UMass Amherst is very strong in Polymer Engineering (which is closely inter-related to ChE). Unfortunately, the UMass system has had a reputation for being a bit frugal with financial aid.

With strong grades and scores you make yourself attractive to STEM schools who like to broaden their student bodies; schools out of your home region of New England. Consider nearby private schools like U of Rochester. Other privates to consider for ChE are…

Illinois Institute of Technology
Vanderbilt University
U of Dayton
Washington University St. Louis
Rose Hulman Institute of Technology
Rice University

Some publics that offer scholarships to non-residents:
U of Alabama-Tuscaloosa
U of South Carolina-Columbia
Clemson University
Ohio University

I would also investigate of a couple of engineering schools that will certainly be a reach, academically; Yale and Columbia. With financial aid these schools could make the COA comparable or even less than UMass.

A low cost option is South Dakota School of Mines & Technology, a rigorous STEM university with a great reputation among employers/recruiters and a total COA of about $21,000 per year. A sizable portion of the student body is not from South Dakota.

I’m currently a senior ChemE. I live down South so I couldn’t tell you much about schools in the northeast. The good thing about schools down here is that many of them don’t require SAT, they just want ACT’s which in my opinion matter more. He’s working in high school and has a 3.5 so I don’t think admission will be a problem and I bet he could get enough scholarships too. Like stated above, ChemE is pretty brutal. Its a great field but unless he’s in honors/AP math and science courses, he should really reconsider because chances are he did the same thing as me and picked the major with the highest salary. AP classes in highschool helped me alot my freshman year of college. Its a great major so if he’s serious about, he should pursue it. And he will also have time because Freshman year in most Engineering program is filled with general classes so he might end up changing disciplines.

He’s doing very well with AP Chem, less well with Precalc (maybe if he went he’d be getting better grades), and takes Physics his senior year. We’ll be sure to look into all these options, thank you!

Oh I can be so helpful here for a number of reasons:
1)I am a chem e.

2)I go to Univ Alabama, out of state, full tuition scholarship.

Now I’ll talk about number 2 first. I am from VA, was only considering instate schools, then by some miracle I heard about Alabama scholarships http://scholarships.ua.edu/types/out-of-state.html and they are all automatic as long as you have the GPA and either the SAT or ACT score. I reccommend your son take the ACT as well as some people do better on one than the other and since he wants to be a chem e, he will have the science brain which will mean he could do better on the ACT. Also with that, there’s also an automatic engineering scholarship awarded (2500 per year) for books/housing/fees/etc. The meal plan(required for freshman) is kind of pricey, but if you’re on a budget, you can negotiate with the university(I know a few kids have had to do that) and you have to live on campus first semester if you’re not commuting, but the dorms are all different rates(however honors dorms are the nicest ones where you dont find vomit in the elevator or beer spilled everywhere because for some reason college kids like to party. I can assure you that the honors dorms are alot more mellow, as I am living in one right now.) Sophmore year, your son could find roomates and live offcampus (he might need a car if there’s no bus to campus from wherever he’ll stay or he can’t carpool, but I would totally be willing to help out if he needs to get somewhere. You can message me on here for details if you’re seriously considering Alabama). The meal plan is not required sophomore year either. Apartments with four people go for about 400 per person per month. (I found a nice one bedroom for 770 because I’m horrible at living with roommates.) There are more forums under Alabama explaining which apartments are good and which ones aren’t. Travel expenses, aren’t too bad coupled with the scholarships. Round trip flights for me go for under 400 if I book a couple months in advance. And he can keep his stuff in storage over the summer for a relatively low rate, though yall might want to have him stay there over the summer bc the leases on all the apartments around here go for 12 months at a time and you would still be paying even if he wasn’t there. He could get a job down there or an internship or something. coops are offered pretty much anyone at anytime and they pay well. Books are pretty pricey at the store which is where you have to get them if you use the engr scholarship there. I almost paid upwards of 1000 last semester and even this semester I paid about 800 bc some of the books/online hw codes, are sold exclusively at the bookstore. Amazon is a good friend, and used books are great too, but even with that its pricey.

Dorm rates: http://housing.ua.edu/pdfs/2014-2015%20Residence%20Hall%20Rates_Approved.pdf
(ridgecrest is the honors dorm. have to be in honors college, but all the engineers I know are in honors college and it’s not capped)
Meal plans: http://fawp.ua.edu/bamadining/first-year-exp/
(the forums under bama can explain dining dollars further)
Auburn also offers automatic scholarships(but I think you should go Bama): http://auburn.edu/scholarship/undergraduate/freshman.html

For number 1:
I love chem e. It fits what I love best and what I want to do with my life. Yes, it is difficult. Yes, you have to go through ochem. Yes, there will be crying and whining and complaining and stress and hardwork, but it will all be worth it. I have already had 5 mental breakdowns and it is only my freshman year. I have thought about switching but I haven’t, because I know I will soon reap the rewards.
Why did I choose Alabama? The scholarship partially, but also because my top choice schools, VT and UVA told me they had no room for me in their engineering college. And I am actually happy here. I realize that this was a blessing, me being rejected by my top choices, because I can do things at Bama I couldn’t have dont at any other school. I am in an undergraduate chemistry lab as a freshman and I am probably gonna be co lead on a paper in a few years. I have leadership oppurtunities from the organizations I am in practically thrown at me. Game days are amazing and exciting. The new Science and Engineering Buildings have up to date equipment. Free t-shirts are tossed out during the first few weeks of school. I have no problem getting into any of the classes I need to. Faculty are always open for questions and can be emailed whenever and respond back within timely manner. I can change my major if I please with ease. I can double or triple major. I can minor in whatever I want. I can be in this super cool program called STEM path to the MBA, where I take extra 1.5 cred hr of business class each semester then go on to get my MBA after I graduate. The library resources are extensive and boundless. There are many tutoring sessions available in something called the Engenuity lab, for engineers only(and not only for engineering classes). There are also other tutoring options for private tutors via the school. It should be impossible to fail a course here with all the extra help there is.

I urge you to have your son apply to both Alabama and Auburn (of course after his SAT score goes up bc neither superscores or averages, but takes the most recent) when their applications open in August. Admission is rolling, scholarships are automatic. I believe he has til May or April to accept the scholarship/admission. (You have to do both separately somehow. There’s more on it in the Bama forums). If he is anything like me, he’ll consider it at first, then as each day goes by, he’ll think how wonderful it is. Or he could go another path. I just hope ya’ll will consider out of state.

Hope this helped! Message me if you wanna talk about anything more.