<p>Heres a question for anti abortion people, your daughter has been raped and is now pregnant. She is 11. Should she have the child based on your beliefs? Imagine how much she will suffer for your beliefs. Also think about this with all the abortions that have been done imagine how overpopulated our country would be. Not just with people, but with criminals. Since many of these children where not wanted, it is very easy to imagine many of them becoming criminals because their parents will not care about them. Have fun filling prisons. What about orphanages, they would be rediculously overfilled.
Now onto another point, for some women their own life may be at risk if they keep carrying a child. So what your saying is they shouldn't get the abortion that would save their life? You would rather see the mother and fetus be gone, then just the fetus?</p>
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<p>First, you're wrong about overpopulation. Second, even if you were right, it doesn't justify a mass genocide.</p>
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Now onto another point, for some women their own life may be at risk if they keep carrying a child. So what your saying is they shouldn't get the abortion that would save their life?
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<p>This hard situation leads us into a rights-rights conflict, ie, the mother's right to live versus the child's right to live. Since we are approaching this from the proper perspective (a government instituted among men to protect natural rights), then you have yourself a quassi-justified abortion, but this is an extremely rare case to happen (if I remember correctly less than 1% of births). Finally, modern technology is countering this force every day, so eventually this tangental approach to justify abortion will be nullified anyway.</p>
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<p>You are sick.</p>
<p>GeorgeS, given the # of foster children in the US, I would have to say that bigndude makes a valid point. There are many parents who cannot care for their children and society in general cannot keep up by adopting many of them.</p>
<p>Alexandre, please understand: the premise of his point is flawed to begin with. Why? Again, because we have a government to protect the natural rights of the people. It is an extremely simple concept that took man hundreds of years to develop. It DOESN'T MATTER how "convenient" it might be for us to "kill off" some people because they "aren't wanted" for over-population or what have you; we are not morally justified to do so.</p>
<p>Remember, our appeals to natural law are prioritized over the whims of man and his governance; our rights come from God and cannot be taken away by mob-majority. This principle is embodied in the Declaration of Independence and is the foundation of our Republic.</p>
<p>Also, how do you define life? Do you believe that life begins the instant the egg is fertilized? After the first trimester? Second?</p>
<p>I think that a woman should have the right to choose. However, I think that there should be "time limit" to when she can get the abortion (ie. the abortion can only be performed during the first trimester).</p>
<p>CDN_Dancer, read post #12.</p>
<p>GeorgeS i would join u except for i'm too lazy to do so right now lol.</p>
<p>GeorgeS, I wasn't addressing you specifically in my previous post.</p>
<p>I'll continue on later. Just one last thing (not addressing anyone specifically): would you rather allow women to have an abortion prior to neurological development in the fetus (no brain waves yet), or ban abortions and have women using coat hangers (endangering their lives as well) or abandoning their babies in garbage cans after birth? </p>
<p>Of course, I'd rather the pregnancy never happened in the first place due to the use of contraceptives. However, if in the event that a pregnancy did occur, I'd prefer the first scenario over the second. (Note: I don't believe that life begins the instant the egg is fertilized, rather that it begins after the first trimester when the EEG patterns have "appeared" for lack of a better term.)</p>
<p>This debate is pointless GeorgeS. I do not recognize a fetus in the formative stages to be a life. Neither do most scientists and indeed, most of the civilized world. Roughly 1.3 Billion people live in developped nations...and 1.1 billion of them think abortion is acceptable precisely because for most of the first trimester, a fetus is not even considered a life. One must really stretch the definition of life and the intended spirit of the scriptures to come to the conclusion that abortion is murder or "genocide" as you put it.</p>
<p>Arguing about abortion is the most pointless thing in the world. You will NEVER (ok 1 in a billion) be able to change somebody's opinion on it.</p>
<p>also abortion is ONLY one of the issues and i believe that there r more issues that deserve more attention than this one. However, I am willing to argue if someone challenges me and tries to "convert" me.</p>
<p>You still didnt answer question one about an 11 year old being raped and having to bear a child. Should a child have to suffer through this, and not be given the chance to have an abortion?</p>
<p>First, I am pro-choice. I firmly believe in a woman's right to choose what she does with her body, not politicians. But anyway, what I find very strange is that some Christian/conservative fundamentalists oppose birth control and contraceptives. Maybe someone could explain this to me, but that sounds completely ridiculous, outdated, and idiotic. Hmmmm......</p>