<p>^ Yeah, smart people will succeed in any environment (whether community college or ucla or yale). It all comes down to initiative and work ethic really. :cool:</p>
<p>would you know by any chance know what the UC to UC transfer essay question will be?? or if not, what last year's was??</p>
<p>Is the UC to UC application any different from the regular transfer application? My guess is that it is not at all different, and in fact, exactly the same application, thus having the same essay question(s).</p>
<p>^ Yeah, I'm ninety percent sure its the exact same personal statements.</p>
<p>In addition, stupid ninety second rule.</p>
<p>sorry.. i didnt mean there was a specific application for prospective UC transfers from other UC's.. guess i just wrote it with my situation in mind.. nehoo.. i was hoping to look over the regular transfer application essay(s) [thought there was only 1 essay question for transfers?]. what was it when yall applied??</p>
<p>The UC Pathways opens up on the first of October. The Filing Period (when you turn in your actual application) is from Nov 1st till the end of Nov.</p>
<p>My guess is the questions will be similar, if not the same to this years' questions. I don't remember exactly what they were but i'm sure people on this forum still have the prompts.</p>
<p>Answering DRab's post:</p>
<p>Well some of the things that I mentioned were stuff I heard from random people and whatnot, I really cant say I am 100% sure they are correct. I really dont care enough to research it. So in terms of the land covered, UCR probably isnt the largest, however it could have been referring to floorspace or something, or it could have been just total BS.</p>
<p>Now as for the libraries, I know for a fact UC berkeley has the largest collection of books and whatnot; however, when i meant the largest I mean SIZE, and i believe UCR wins that over UCI by like 4 sqr feet or something like that. Once again, this was just something told so dont take me as a the giver of truth here. Although it seems stated many times that it does have the largest collection of science fiction in the world. And in terms of the size, I have no clue if thats 1 library building or the combination of all 5. </p>
<p>But seriously, neither of the above really means much unless you are anal about being able to brag about stats; which is something I care little to none about. On another note, I heard that campus size thing at orientation, so it should probably be moved down to the other category of information. </p>
<p>Regarding the commons:
dig around <a href="http://commonsexpansion.ucr.edu/%5B/url%5D">http://commonsexpansion.ucr.edu/</a></p>
<p>And as for APs, it could have been the same at Cal, possibly not. But HMC does not accept AP credit. </p>
<p>And for the dorms, which is better is, as you know, very subjective and different depending on the tastes. For me, Pentland Hills is practically the perfect setting. It is quiet and relaxing. I have my own bathroom, which is just awesome, and there is a snack shop just down stairs. That and the living rooms are very social and fun to hang around. </p>
<p>As for nova's question:
Every college will have its bashers, whether it being someone who attended the school or someone who goes to a different school. If the basher is someone from your school, they just simply did not try and make the most of their college experience (probably). I have met many people who have whined about their college and all of these people were closed minded, not willing to try new things in a generally liberal environment. There are of course people who have had bad experiences as well, but these are few and far between. </p>
<p>Now as for bashers from other colleges, most of the times its someone who is only doing it in an attempt to feel superior about his college, which in some retarded way makes him feel superior about himself. I just blame this on insecurity and ignorace. As for ignorace, I actually got a lot of that in high school from people who laughed at me for chosing UCR over what many consider the best science school in the country for undergraduates. I just shrugged it off and asked them why it mattered. There are only 2 responses I could ever get:
1. "Why got to UCR, the teachers there are way worse than at Cal and definately HMC?" (and they would say this with a total lack of evidence)
My answer: Only stupid people rely on their teachers to teach them all the information; a truely smart student can teach himself.</p>
<ol>
<li>"How could you pick UCR, _____ is way more prestigous?"
My answer: so?</li>
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<p>hmm i understand what youre saying.. =) and how valid is the statement: the degree is not worth as much since the admissions people for grad schools are "probably" from "higher" schools.. that one really struck me~</p>
<p>If your application/resume is so weak that you depend on the name of your college to get you into grad school, you dont deserve to go.</p>
<p>Basically, what college you go dont doesnt matter as much as the grades you get, the recommendations you get, and the things you participate in.</p>
<p>I like Seiken. Just tearing this place up. Seems like each year I do less and less work to defend UCR. </p>
<p>Bashers are dying slowly.</p>
<p>Raymond Ching
Bear Facts Orientation Counselor 2005
Housing Staff (RSA) 2005-2006
UC Education Abroad Program: Hong Kong - Hong Kong University 2006-2007</p>
<p>yah he seems like a good guy.. and hi again nxs.. dont know if u remember me but i talked with you last year here on CC before i went to bear facts. you looked over my schedule =)</p>
<p>Seiken:</p>
<p>"'Why got to UCR, the teachers there are way worse than at Cal and definately HMC?' (and they would say this with a total lack of evidence)" [sic]</p>
<p>I like how all of a sudden you're critical of those who say things without having any evidence when you also made some claims earlier about the UCs without any evidence. When you were called out on it you said:</p>
<p>"Well some of the things that I mentioned were stuff I heard from random people and whatnot, I really cant say I am 100% sure they are correct. I really dont care enough to research it...it could have been just total BS."</p>
<p>ĀOnly stupid people rely on their teachers to teach them all the information; a truely smart student can teach himself.Ā [sic]</p>
<p>Whoa! I canĀt believe someone just said that. Are you saying that teachers play an insignificant part of a ĀsmartĀ studentĀs education? I doubt an actual "smart" student would pass up such a valuable resource. I guess thereĀs no need to actually go to class then; you can just Āteach yourself.Ā YouĀre hilarious; stop saying such ridiculous thingsĀ and this coming from a person that canĀt even spell Ātruly.Ā</p>
<p>ĀBasically, what college you go dont doesnt matter as much as the grades you get, the recommendations you get, and the things you participate in.Ā [sic]</p>
<p>This is true to an extent. But reputation and prestige DO matter. If two applicants have equal accomplishments, then who do think will get the position? The person who went to the ĀbetterĀ school will of course. Obviously, if you have poor grades and accomplishments then even the name of your school canĀt save you.</p>
<p>"I like how all of a sudden you're critical of those who say things without having any evidence when you also made some claims earlier about the UCs without any evidence."</p>
<p>The things I mentioned in my post were things that I heard from people who went to the school, and for the most part I didnāt think they were that important enough to research to find if they were true or not. Iām glad someone corrected me actually. However, about the people that tell me the education is better at a prestigious school just based on the name of the school; they have probably never heard statement from a credible person (someone who attended both schools) comparing the quality of teaching of School A and B, and are just assuming they are correct based on name of the school. </p>
<p>"Whoa! I canāt believe someone just said that. Are you saying that teachers play an insignificant part of a 'smart' studentās education? I doubt an actual "smart" student would pass up such a valuable resource. I guess thereās no need to actually go to class then; you can just āteach yourself.ā Youāre hilarious; stop saying such ridiculous thingsā¦and this coming from a person that canāt even spell 'truly.'"</p>
<p>Actually I also spelled the word "definitely" wrong as well. Also, I used the word "dont" instead of the word "to" on accident. These are the results of typing without care to grammar/spelling and the inability to edit after someone else posts. I actually find it quite trivial that you would mock me for that. And as for the "smart" comment, I completely disagree with you. For example, during my junior and senior year of high school, I barely attended any of my classes because I was working on a science fair experiment (which I didnāt complete in time for the senior science fair, but oh well, I still did manage to place 4rth). In those 2 years, I took 11 AP exams and passed all of them, with only three 3s (2 in English as you might have guessed and a 3rd in macroeconomics which was the "one" I decided to scrap for sake of the others) How did I do this without attending class? Well, just as you said I "taught myself." This was actually probably a good thing because I was actually the first person from my school to pass (with a 5 too) the Stats AP exam, since the teacher is new. Perhaps my words are not as "rediculous" as you might think.</p>
<p>Ill deal with your last comment later, my girlfriend is over.</p>
<p>Ha. This the comment that smart kids teach themselves is really retarded. You claim that Berkeley had too many kids that are full of themselves. Im sorry but it seems that YOU are too full of yourself. In your defense of UCR, you have really used some stupid arguments but this is the cream of the crop. Teaching yourself 11 APs is excellent, but doesnt justify your comment. Im sorry if the rest of us 'stupid' people require teachers in order to learn and actually appreciate the work that they do for us. And i highly doubt you could learn something such as Organic Chemistry without the help of a teacher.</p>
<p>Im not trying to bash UCR, just your argument for defending it. I mean you could have said that UCR has a better student to teacher ratio (i dont really know if it does), or that its professors focus more on teaching than on their research which provides a better ugrad experience, but instead you use completely ludacris arguments. If your happy at UCR then great, but dont use stupid arguments.</p>
<p>On another note, i still dont get how you logically came to attend UCR. I mean some of your reasoning is plain baffling. You dont like UCLA because of too many preppies? Right, because everyone is a preppy at UCLA. And even if you hate/dislike preppies to an extremely high degree, i STILL cant comprehend how that would eliminate an ENTIRE UNIVERISITY from your selection. As for UCB, just because you met a few people who felt superior to others (which seems slightly contagious <em>cough</em> <em>cough</em>), does not mean that EVERYONE, or hell even MOST students at a university containing 20,000 Undergraduates are the same. Now for Harvey Mudd, i can see your reasoning, COST. Money is a huge factor and i myself find it difficult to foresee myself playing 35g a year. There you used good reasoning instead of heated passion trying to defend your choice. GOOD JOB! </p>
<p>I have more to say but its 4:30 am and i should go to sleep.</p>
<p>Oh yeah one more thing, correcting peoples grammar online is REALLY pointless, that goes for both of you.</p>
<p>"Ha. This the comment that smart kids teach themselves is really retarded. You claim that Berkeley had too many kids that are full of themselves. Im sorry but it seems that YOU are too full of yourself. In your defense of UCR, you have really used some stupid arguments but this is the cream of the crop. Teaching yourself 11 APs is excellent, but doesnt justify your comment. Im sorry if the rest of us 'stupid' people require teachers in order to learn and actually appreciate the work that they do for us. And i highly doubt you could learn something such as Organic Chemistry without the help of a teacher."</p>
<p>Sigh....well i guess ill start off by saying that I am indeed confident in my academic ability. You can interpret that as you will; I was just providing an examped to counter 99's statement. Now you seem to think that i was saying that teacher's are useless to me; that is not the case. For me, teachers are more of guides than passers of knowledge. They have always helped me look in the right place when i need to find some knowledge. Actually, one of the most influential adult figures in my life is my chem AP teacher. After sleeping through (for the most part) 2 years of chem, i began working on the forementioned science experiment. Her college thesis actually is what sparked that dive into biophysics. However, when it came time to starting the full-blown research into the subject (cathodic galvanotaxis if you actually care) she refused to help me with anything, and only provided me with the required equipment, I had to research everything on my own. In the end, I learned more through self-study than i could have learned from her. Now the whole teacher arguement started with the idea that teachers at the other colleges were more accomplished than those at UCR, and therefore they could teach their students more. I was trying to say that for some people this is not the case. (I could go on to explain the whole confidence boost yielding better results as well as other things, but ill digress, im sleepy too; I spent all night playing resident evil 4) And so for me, that whole "subject" didnt matter for college. </p>
<p>"On another note, i still dont get how you logically came to attend UCR. I mean some of your reasoning is plain baffling. You dont like UCLA because of too many preppies? Right, because everyone is a preppy at UCLA. And even if you hate/dislike preppies to an extremely high degree, i STILL cant comprehend how that would eliminate an ENTIRE UNIVERISITY from your selection. As for UCB, just because you met a few people who felt superior to others (which seems slightly contagious <em>cough</em> <em>cough</em>), does not mean that EVERYONE, or hell even MOST students at a university containing 20,000 Undergraduates are the same. Now for Harvey Mudd, i can see your reasoning, COST. Money is a huge factor and i myself find it difficult to foresee myself playing 35g a year. There you used good reasoning instead of heated passion trying to defend your choice. GOOD JOB! "</p>
<ol>
<li>Alright. Rather than going into a bit by bit explanation of the whole UCLA thing, ill just say that the whole "preppy/football/school spirit out you ass" thing is just something i dislike about UCLA. The best reason i could give as to why to i wouldnt go to UCLA over UCR is that UCLA can not offer me a single thing that i want, that UCR cannot, but not vice-versa.</li>
<li>As for berkeley, its not just the people i met while visiting, but the people from my school who are going - all of them drove me nuts when i was within their company. They all just focused on academics way too much WHEN THEY DIDNT NEED TO. (note the emphasis) I could try to explain this more in depth, but i dont think it will make much sense to you. Possibly point 3 might at least give you a hint thought.</li>
<li>As for the whole superior thing regarding me, I honestly probably do catch things easier than your "average person." However I do not thing that I am superior in any way because of that. I was merely showing that I have achieved what some may consider "academic success" without relying on teachers "teaching me." </li>
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<p>This is the 2nd time ive typed this thanks to some lame refresh, so I"m gonna just call it and go to sleep now (i was up all night playing resident evil 4)</p>
<p>hmm i guess its worth a double post to say this as well.</p>
<p>Assuming UCLA and UCR can match each other in what i am looking for, why would i choose the school that i will feel the most out of place at? Cal is a little bit different, but the same general idea still applies.</p>