Christian Colleges, US Service Acads & More

<p>Ok, I’ll give you the denomination. </p>

<p>But sorry, the Christian stuff doesn’t count. I’m sure there are NDU students, Gtown too, who are devotees.:stuck_out_tongue: Give 5 college/university associations, with the label Christian, and includes Catholic schools.</p>

<p>exegesis, you are correct. It IS that simple because the OP understands the terminological nuance.</p>

<p>Completely ignoring what this thread has turned into, I figured I’d throw out the name of another Christian institution I know of, which really has a sweet campus and a close-knit community (and really tasty food)…</p>

<p>Has anyone heard of Gordon College? It’s in Wenham, Massachusetts.</p>

<p>^ I’ve heard of it. They are inaugurating a new President this year, Dr. Lindsay, a former Rice professor. He’s a VERY smart man if you have a chance to read some of his books.</p>

<p>Also, I second the OP’s praise of Wheaton. It’s underrated in the US News, IMO, probably because of its religious affiliation.</p>

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<p>My point there was only about grammar and orthography, not about the ontological status of Roman Catholicism v. Lutheranism as religious beliefs. But speaking of which, in post #4 I missed at least one school:</p>

<p>St. Olaf College (USNWR #51 National Liberal Arts College, Lutheran)</p>

<p>I don’t know if a Lutheran LAC meets the OP’s criteria. If not, some other readers might find it worth considering, regardless. It apparently has especially strong mathematics and choir programs.</p>

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<p>The USNWR criteria are, for the most part, data-driven. Points are not deducted for having a religious affiliation (though we can speculate about religious bias creeping in through the PA and counsellor scores).</p>

<p>I think it’s entirely possible that schools with strong religious affiliations are ranked artificially low because some college presidents (who happen to be secular liberals, like most in academia) simply cannot believe that a college with an official religious sponsorship can offer a real education.</p>

<p>It’s probably worse for schools like Wheaton than some of the Jesuit schools since "few words conjure as much distaste in liberal circles as “evangelical Christian.” (NYT’s Nick Kristof in his 7/31 column)</p>

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So because a bunch of evangelical Protestant groups call themselves “Christian,” Christianity and anything non-Evangelical-Protestant become mutually exclusive?</p>

<p>For the record, how many Christians do you think there are in the world? By my count, it’s 2 billion, but that is a majority Catholic, so since you’d axe the Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Mormons, and God knows who else, Christianity isn’t really a major religion in your view, is it? What, 100 million, maybe? Or only 50? Or maybe just your church is the only “true” Scotsman-- I mean “Christian” church.</p>

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FYI:</p>

<p>[Christian</a> Unity Week // Campus Ministry // University of Notre Dame](<a href=“http://campusministry.nd.edu/ecumenical-interfaith/christian-unity/]Christian”>http://campusministry.nd.edu/ecumenical-interfaith/christian-unity/)</p>

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<p>One way to test this would be to back off the PA (& HS Counsellor) scores, then examine the ranking that results from the other, data-driven metrics. If you’d like to figure this out for a few schools, please share your findings.</p>

<p>Meanwhile, we can have a look at published rankings that do not use PA scores. Consider the stateuniversity.com rankings, for instance. These are based primarily on test scores, student retention, faculty salary, and s/f ratios ([About</a> StateUniversity.com’s School Rankings](<a href=“http://www.stateuniversity.com/about/rank]About”>About StateUniversity.com's School Rankings)).
Here’s how some of the schools we’ve mentioned fall out:</p>

<p>Calvin College (#102)
Baylor (#170)
Westmont College (#216)
Cedarville University (#232)
Taylor University (#239)
Gordon College (#310)
Bethel University (#342)
Olivet Nazarene (#733)</p>

<p>Note that these rankings are for Universities + LACs combined. I could not find rankings for Wheaton and Grove City; they may not have made data available.</p>

<p>We could also look at the Washington Monthly “research” rankings, which compare schools based on annual research expenditures, PhD productivity, and (for universties only) faculty distinctions, and science/engineering PhDs awarded. No PA scores are considered.</p>

<p>Wheaton (#37 among LACs)
Gordon College (#152 among LACs)
Baylor (#188 among universities)
(these are the only 3 that I found on the WM “research” radar)</p>

<p>The Forbes ranking is another one that does not use PA scores. It emphasizes cost/benefit based on student satisfaction, postgraduate earnings, student debt, 4-year graduation rates, and competitive awards. In the 2011 rankings, Wheaton comes in at #66.This is the only school on the OP’s short list to crack the Forbes top 101.</p>

<p>Wasn’t Martin Luther ex-communicated from the catholic church?</p>

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Yes… He rebelled against the (then very corrupt) Catholic Church, and they kicked him out. Obviously he remained a Christian, but was no longer a Catholic, and founded his own denomination. This is relevant, how?</p>

<p>For what it’s worth, my oldest absolutely loves Covenant College on Lookout Mountain, GA. He considered some of the others on the original list - and preferred Covenant. When I checked results on MFT tests of graduates, Covenant did extremely well. It’s a small school (perhaps MY only issue with it), but the academics are matching what I expected. When I looked at oodles of Protestant Christian colleges based solely on incoming Freshman SAT/ACT scores, Covenant was #8, above many on this thread. It’s reformed - we’re not - but he still loves it there.</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/christian-colleges/876276-2010-updated-protestant-christian-college-university-list-2.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/christian-colleges/876276-2010-updated-protestant-christian-college-university-list-2.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>I too have heard good things about Covenant. Their President Neil Neison (sp?) and his wife are Wheaton grads.</p>