<p>@itsaclassic</p>
<p>holy *<strong><em>. amazing. oh man… korean christians are after you, that’s terrible.
cults scare the *</em></strong> out of me…</p>
<p>I think Religions are just bigger forms of cults. All religions were promoted by small groups of people or an individual. Just look at the Mormon and Muslim religion.</p>
<p>The only religion I love is True Religion!</p>
<p>This thread has absolutely no meaningful collegeconfidential-type of discussion.</p>
<p>It’s also sad that people are using their “freedom of speech” to attack people of other beliefs while also neglecting other people’s “freedom of religion.” Everyone is entitled to believe in what they want to believe in. If there are disagreements, you can settle them with friendly debates.</p>
<p>No one is forcing anyone to believe anything. Berkeley is a diverse place filled with many different viewpoints. If that makes you uncomfortable, this university is not for you.</p>
<p>“No one is forcing anyone to believe anything.” Hmmm… They sure are annoying…</p>
<p>Like I said, the only religion I love is True Religion, which in return is atheism. BURN! NEW TOPIC, can atheism be considered a religion?</p>
<p>Atheism is studied in theology, and I personally could count atheism is having religious-like qualities in that it’ll have insane hard-liners who tolerate nothing.</p>
<p>I’m personally a deist, but I love learning about religion and why people seem so adamant to defend theirs.</p>
<p>Lol. True Religion? The bane of true denim aficionados…</p>
<p>Why cuzz you cant afford it?</p>
<p>True Religions are not worth the money.
- People buy it 'cuz its a fashion label, and they “like” the back pocket stitching.
- The denim quality / weight is not worth what you’re paying for.
- Its pre-distressed, fail much?</p>
<p>I could understand paying that much if it were a pair of Nudies, APC, Red Monkey, Sugarcane, etc, but …</p>
<p>you’re being brainwashed into buying true religions by the popular media, funnily enough that this is in this topic.</p>
<p>Well that’s your own opinion. I personally love True Religion for its high quality and design. Of course I have more Levi’s because they are also nice and about $100 less. The only people who are brainwashed are the A&F and Hollister, omg and AE, shoppers. Then again, its your opinion, I respect that…</p>
<p>This is devolved quite a bit…</p>
<p>There is a very strong Asian-Christian community on campus. Explore to explore and join if you want to.</p>
<p>It’s true.</p>
<p>This isn’t just directed toward Clear my mind, but…</p>
<p>If you want to sum up Berkeley’s attitude about this or other similar debates:</p>
<p>We don’t care.</p>
<p>Some do, and there’s clubs that bring together like and unlike-minded people to debate and discuss issues. Most everyone learns to get along though - if you don’t, then you’re just going to **** off a lot your peers and get frustrated over stupid stuff while everyone else is having fun.</p>
<p>Clear my mind, if you want to debate, try the [url=<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-confidential-cafe/]Cafe[/url”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-confidential-cafe/]Cafe[/url</a>]. You’ll find people who agree with you, people who don’t, and plenty who are (gasp) smarter and more eloquent debater than you. What you’re doing now is preaching to yourself, annoying everyone else, and hurting the Berkeley community with your rants. Please, stop.</p>
<p>If you don’t care, why are you still here?</p>
<p>And stop sending me private emails about your little nice bull***** while bashing me on the public form. If you are any smarter, you would have just walked away. If you don’t want to play the game, just **** off then…</p>
<p>I simply asked about Christianity Among Asians after reading one of the most respected SF newspapers. Other people shared their religious beliefs and opinions and so did I. What kind of hypocritical atheist are you? I hope there is a hell, so you can burn in it. Now stop! Better yet, just press Alt & F4 and go bash on some other kid.</p>
<p>Agree with 08Holla about apathy.</p>
<p>Personally, I believe <puts up=“” the=“” flame=“” retardant=“”> people of various religions, in some cases, can be quite fanatical about them because it has been conditioned into them. Religion can offer explanations about the unknown, and can offer comfort to those afraid of various ideas, such as what happens after death. To take one’s religion away is to take away one of the main support pillars of everything they have believed in their entire life, and thus people will fight and cling to what they know. </puts></p>
<p>What i tell recruiters:
I personally withhold judgment on the whole god idea, as a person heavily schooled in scientific thought, I try not to establish conclusions without overwhelming supporting evidence first. And as of now, I have not seen conclusive evidence either proving the existence of a higher power or powers, or the lack of. Until that proof is offered (no, saying “But who else could have created the world?” or “You exist, don’t you?” is not enough), and (if he/she/it exists), this higher power is concretely defined (no, saying “God is God and he loves you” is not enough), I will not subscribe to any religion or religious groups (and scientific thought is not a belief system, it is a method of formulating judgments about the world).</p>
<p>Lets just let this thread die now? :P</p>
<p>We come here for fun right? So lets just not talk about it if its bothering us :D</p>
<p>Either way, nobody is going to change anyone’s opinions. And we all are now informed and can formulate our own opinions.</p>
<p>The most important thing is to keep an open mind and tolerate other people’s view points!</p>
<p>We’re Berkeley remember? :D</p>
<p>hear, hear!</p>
<p>I was approached once. She wasn’t that cute. But I convinced her. And she sinned. Oh boy, did she sin.</p>
<p>Batman17 wins.</p>
<p>I love to learn about religion - I’ve been to Christian retreats, fellowships. In a few weeks, I’m going with my Muslim friend to his mosque to see what it is like. It isn’t in my nature to either accept religion or attack it - if that scientific doubt that some people use as their reason against religion is what it is, then the lack of a god should also be doubted (this wasn’t directed toward anyone; it’s just my belief.) </p>
<p>However, I cannot defend those who aggressively go out and try to convert people. Most of what religions dictate are personal tenets - things that do not need to be spread to others. I believe that people should be left to discover how they truly feel about subjects on their own, and based on their life experiences, instead off of what other people tell them. If you want other people to follow your example - if you believe that what those principles that your religion teaches you to be what other people should follow - then set an example by doing something. If <em>insert religion</em> teaches you to love, then love other people. If <em>religion</em> teaches you to give to charity, then give to charity. That’s all you need to do.</p>
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<p>It’s not so entirely freakish and indefensible as you might think; I mean if your best friend honestly believes there’s only one way to avoid paying for things we’ve done wrong (and believes that payment is hell, hellish, etc…), and then just leaves you to “discover how you truly feel about subjects on your own,” you’ve got a pretty heartless best friend. Obviously though, when it gets to be “aggresive” as you put it, it’s not doing anybody any good, as it’s only a turn-off.</p>
<p>Not directing this at you specifically, but you might as well cut people some slack - a lot of Christians would probably disagree with saying that religion is all about personal tenets. But ya, it would help if there were more people setting better examples.</p>
<p>I think the news article is an exaggeration. Yes, there are many Asian Christians, but there are even more Asian non-Christians. Asian Buddhists tend to be more reserve and keep to themselves, you know, the silent majority.</p>
<p>I agree with some posters, Berkeley is a place where you can find people from all walks of life. Gay used to mean happy, but it now has a new meaning; “liberal” is supposed to be “open minded”, unfortunately, it is no longer true. Just look at Perez Hilton, is he open minded? I also don’t like to label people by either conservative or liberal. Human beings are too complex to be labeled.</p>