Christmas

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<p>Sorry if there's already been a similar thread. </p>

<p>Can someone explain to me HOW our society has gotten to the point where people have to give second thoughts before saying Merry Christmas. WHOCARES IF THE PERSON YOU'RE SAYING IT TO DOESN'T CELEBRATE IT? A) if the person doesn't and is actually OFFENDED, then that person might as well bomb every street lamp with Christmas lights, set every Christmas tree in an office building or mall on fire, deny or return Christmas gifts and cards from friends, and try erasing thousands of years of Western history. B) By saying Merry Christmas, you're not saying "Merry Christianness!" Saying "Merry Christmas" is the equivalent to a warm wish, a happy season, a nice new year, a nice December 25th. (December 25th, according to every non religious calendar in the world (both the developed and undeveloped countries) unless you live in freakin Iran or North Korea-- is considered CHRISTMAS.) Like not EVERYONE celebrates Thanksgiving, so we do we have to worry about saying Happy Thanksgiving too, so as not to offend anyone? Valentine's Day? What if you don't have a Valentine? </p>

<p>If someone told me Happy Kwanzaa, (which I don't celebrate) I wouldn't be offended! I'd be like thank you for sharing your joy with me :). Thanks for the warm wishes. </p>

<p>Thing is "Happy Holidays" isn't a bad phrase, I honestly would have agreed with its usage-- it's just put a bad taste in my mouth because I know people say it for stupid reasons. So now I never say it. LoL. By saying "Happy Holidays," I'd feel as if I'm supporting a political movement. I'd feel like I'd be making dead communists happy. </p>

<p>Anti-Christmas people, anti-anything Christian politically-correct-to-the-extreme secularists are the ones that promote the phrase the most because they want to destroy Christmas. yes they do. They don't care about inclusiveness, they just want to silence a faith once and for all. TO them I say <em>especially</em>: MERRY CHRISTMAS! CHRISTmas yes! </p>

<p>Let's not forget the fact that 98-99% of Americans celebrate Christmas--religious and non religous alike, so it's a pretty good chance that the person you're wishing Merry CHristmas too celebrates it just like you. Christmas, Santa Claus, and all the other stuff associated with it has become generic anyway, I seriously don't get the fuss. </p>

<p>Anyways this year, Hanukkah and Christmas fall on the same day. So Merry Christmas AND Happy Hanukkah. :)</p>

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<p>Wow....my dad was talking about the exact same thing last week. I think there was something about a guy that was offended by the fact that the White House cards just said Happy Holidays, and that they should be changed to Merry Christmas or something.</p>

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<p>eh - political correctness in general just p.isses me off. So I agree with your post.</p>

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<p>to diana,
what i cant believe people are mad that IT DOES SAY happy holidays! i mean this way it applies to everyone right? i would think people would be upset if they DIDNT say "happy holidays",i mean just "happy Kwanzaa" thats like saying "Have a good day, but only if you are [insert nationality here]"
i like happy holidays- it still has the nice meaning, and it applies to everyone</p>

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<p>merry christmas</p>

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<p>I don't see why it is offensive either. People should be happy that they're being wished a "merry christmas" rather than a "go to hell."</p>

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<p>First of all, no one did acknowledge this? What is wrong with "Happy Holidays". I say that. If u say Merry Christmas then you're excluding a great deal of people, Jews, Buddhists, Muslims, Atheists, Agnostics, etc. and packerfan, you are one rude person by the way. yupp.</p>

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<p>merry christmas to you ! kudos to you for being correct !</p>

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<p>i agree with the op. why shouldn't i be allowed to say merry christmas if i want to? i dont get offended when people say "happy hannukah" or "happy kwanza" or "happy holidays". so why are people getting so worked up over being politically correct? jeez if we could just accept the fact that different people will celebrate in different ways as opposed to always trying to hide it and gloss everything over with 'happy holidays', then i think we'd all be a lot happier.</p>

<p>now that's not to say there's anything wrong with happy holidays, especially if you're talking to someone whom u know will get offended. that's sort of a personal choice. but there shouldn't bet such a whole dilemna over the words "merry christmas". chill out. why are you all getting so worked up over two (well-meaning)words?</p>

<p>lol just my little rant ;)</p>

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<p>ps- in case i get flamed or anything, i'm NOT saying the white house should say "merry christmas".</p>

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<p>o.k. it doesnt offend me because i celebrate Christmas, what I dont understand is why it's so incredibly hard to just be considerate of others. Why are you being intentionally antagonistic? all imsaying is that we should limit ourselves to saying Merry Christmas as the default holiday greeting. We shouldnt assume everyone is Christian. Thats all so can people stop being rude. Seeing as how Im not stupid and recognized that red06 was clearly mocking me.</p>

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<p>Yeah, I also think the whole "holiday tree" thing is incredibly stupid.</p>

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<p>sorry greendayfan, ididn't mean to be antagonistic. i agree that happy holidays should be the default holiday greeting. i just misconstrued what you said-- i thought that you&the others meant that we shouldnt say merry christmas any more.
i know not everyone's christian, but since so many people celebrate xmas anyway, why is it such a major issue? i dont get offended when i see a manorah in town, and my jewish friends dont get offended when they xmas trees. i'm not saying at all that christianity should be the main religion/w.e., but what's wrong with celebrating diversity?
personally, i think that the whole debate is pretty silly. i've never felt any qualms saying merry xmas or happy hannukah or w/e to whoever it applied to- i hate that an obsession with political correctness and this whole political debate (thanks bush admin :rolleyes:) has even managed to seep its way into one of the happiest times of the year :/</p>

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<p>I don't think anyone is actually offended - I'm not, even as an atheist. I think it's something select Christian organizations (and Fox News, cough cough) have made up to show themselves as being "attacked," which we all know is bs, as they run the white house already.</p>

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<p>What do you have against New Year's?</p>

<p>Christmas (or Hannukah or Kwanzaa) and New Year's when added together equal TWO holidays. Therefore, "happy holiday*s*" is perfectly accurate, even if you're Christian.</p>

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<p>unefleursauvage, dont worry i wasnt referring to you..but I dont see how saying 'merry christmas' is celebrating diversity because honestly most people say 'merry christmas' just assuming you are Christian and you celebrate it. Its not about pc, really.</p>

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If someone told me Happy Kwanzaa, (which I don't celebrate) I wouldn't be offended! I'd be like thank you for sharing your joy with me . Thanks for the warm wishes.

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If someone told me that, it would make me angry as I (or noone for that matter) celebrates this made up holiday. Fetivus is on the 23rd though, so HAPPY FESTIVUS!</p>

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<p>what is with these peoples' persecution complexes? I hardly think there's a lack of Christmas decorations anywhere.</p>

<p>seriously, the holiday season doesn't need this divisiveness. happy holidays, everyone. (or "merry Christmas", if you're going to be a jerk about it)</p>

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<p>Kwanza is not a made up holiday? Dude you;re 29 get off these boards and get yourself a life. Honestly.</p>

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<p>Um yeah some guy made up Kwanzaa in the 60s, look it up.</p>