Class of 2013?!?!

<p>I am a senior and yale is my first choice but...can i get in?</p>

<p>[ *] Applying EA
[ *] SAT I (breakdown):not submitting
[ *] ACT:32
[ *] SAT II: retaking, Literature(700)
[ *] Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0):4.0 (99.3)
[ *] Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable):School does not rank, but im in top 3
[ *] Senior Year Course Load:hardest possible that the school could give, with dual credit, many ap classes, and bioscience classes at the hospital center
[ *] Major Awards : NASA high school aerospace scholar, national achievement scholar, first in my school to win district basketball awards (2nd team all-district, 1st team all-district), Female Most Valuable Player (for all sports, not just basketball), AP Us History (top student), Theology I (top student), Track (long jump and hurdle awards), Music Tournament (1's)</p>

<p>[ *] Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis):Newspaper (Editor), Interact (President), NHS (Senior rep), Student Council (Vice Pres), Tri-M Honor Society (Secretary), Basketball (captain), Volleyball, Track, Band (Flute)
[ *] Job/Work Experience:work at my family's medical clinic (mom is doctor)
[ *] Volunteer/Community service:local library, church in nigeria, adopted kid in middle east, care packages for soliders, ,sang to children and veterans at the hospital
[ *] Summer Activities: attended NASA Scholars program, traveled to nigeria, leadership camp
[ *] Essays: hilarious one about my big family (7 kids)
[ *] Teacher Recommendation:excellent because i go to a small school and the teachers are really close
[ *] Counselor Rec: really good too
[ *] Additional Rec: one from my mentor at the NASA program
[ *] Interview: thinking this will go well because I'm easy to talk too</p>

<p>[ *] State (if domestic applicant):Small town, texas
[ *] School Type: private (about 100 students)
[ *] Ethnicity:African american
[ *] Gender:female
[ *] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.):URM?</p>

<p>So, uh, chance away!</p>

<p>I think Yale would fit you well and I think you will be accepted. Your GPA is (obviously) excellent and your extracurriculars are good, not great. Your ACT/SAT's are not going to put you out of contention but they are not at the high end either. If you are going to retake the Literature SAT II as opposed to just taking other SAT II's, I would make sure you can improve your score in that area because I think it is probably okay as is (although, once again, not at the high end of applicants).</p>

<p>The thing that makes me think you will be accepted:
-I like your essay topic, recs, and interview.
-I like your extracurricular editor position, medical stuff, and sports.
-I REALLY LIKE that you are an African American female dedicated to science (and that you are from Texas). I apologize if that sounds racist or sexist in any way but demographics do mean something in the college admissions game. I think you are correct in identifying URM as your "hook" and I think it will put you over the edge. You would be a competitive applicant without URM status but I think that will put your foot in the door.</p>

<p>Apply SCEA. And come to Yale -- you will love it!!!</p>

<p>I think you have a good chance. I would suggest that when listing your activities for you to consolidate them under umbrellas to show depth. </p>

<p>Like group the NASA and medical for science. Group the volunteer stuff and the traveling. And group the sports stuff. By group i mean when writing your awards or ECs on the application try to group them together to show depth. By having a consolidated list of 5 things that can be connected together it gives the sense that you are working in depth toward something that you want to do. Remember they want depth, not quantity.</p>

<p>*] Applying SCEA
[ *] SAT I :N/A
[ *] ACT:32
[ *] SAT II: French 750, Chemistry 700, Spanish 660
[ *] Unweighted GPA: N/A
[ *] Rank :School does not rank, but in top 10%
[ *] Course Load:hardest possible schedule for all four year</p>

<p>[ *] Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis):Student Cultural Alliance(Head), Amnesty International (President, lots of work in writing to Congress, human rights in East Africa, etc.), Football, School Newspaper (Section editor), Young Democrats (Head, Obama Campaign Since 2007), Debate (3-4 1st Place Awards), French Club, some others but those are my main ones
[ *] Job/Work Experience: Internship (see below), Fast food (wanted to work a normal job)
[ *] Volunteer/Community service: Save Darfur, church , Alzheimer's Patient Center, Teaching French and English to Immigrant Children from Francophone Africa
[ *] Summer Activities: NYC investment banking internship, traveled to France
[ *] Essays: Still Writing Them...They will be really good by the end
[ *] Teacher Recommendation:Excellent, both teachers know me really well and like me a lot[ *] Counselor Rec: Very very good
[ *] Additional Rec: Director of A School That I Was on an exchange for in Paris
[ *] Interview: Hopefully goes welll
[ *] State (if domestic applicant):NC
[ *] School Type: Highy Competitive, Elite New England Prep School
[ *] Ethnicity:African-American
[ *] Gender:Male
[ *] Hooks: ...</p>

<p>Sounds like Andover or Exeter or somewhere similar?</p>

<p>In terms of chances, you have fine chances. I'm struggling to see what really interests you or at least what makes you unique... make sure you show that. Class rank and test scores are fine. Your school extracurriculars seem alright but they are pretty typical of applicants. Your ibanking and Paris thing almost sounds elitist for whatever reason...</p>

<p>You have fine/good chances tho. Certainly nothing that throws you out of contention. Work on those essays!</p>

<p>Thanks yalie, I am really interested in French and foreign language in general. In college I think I want to major in either French or International Relations. I know that my school EC's are nothing special, but I did as much as I could handle that interest me. Do you have any suggestions so that I can improve my application and present myself as a unique person who is interested in global affairs?</p>

<p>Wow, I didn't realize that there would be so many black applicants.</p>

<p>Yeah ok, I only know of 4 including myself, but for some reason I didn't think there would be even that many..</p>

<p>Alot at my school are applying, so it might not be as much of a "hook" to be black this year</p>

<p>^eh, don't think that's exactly accurate...</p>

<p>i mean, you go to a prep school - so presumably all of the minorities there are exceptional to some degree. But if you looked at my school, you would see that there are few if ANY black kids applying to even mid-level schools. And I go to a pretty good public school.</p>

<p>^^I'm in the same situation as you, eating food. I'm in the AP program (taking the most in my school...I'll have 18 by the time I graduate) and there are only 3-5 (tops) black students in the program...and I go to a pretty good public school as well. I completely agree that because you go to a prep school, it's more than likely that all the minorities will be applying; I think the % of blacks applying with probably be around the same as in recent years. (It just upsets me that the percentage enrolled at most Ivies is less than 10%...change needs to come, but I digress.)</p>

<p>Regardless, I think that your ECs are really cool and should help you out a lot! I think that you will have some really good essay topics! My only advice is to maybe retake the ACT. Other than that, you should have a really great shot!</p>

<p>You all are right about the greater amount of black students applying from schools like mine, I geuss I let that cloud my perception of this a little. Come to think of it all of the black people who I went to school with in middle school and now go to the public high school that I would've gone too are just applying to state schools. There aren't even very many white people applying every year or two the valedictorian will go to Duke or UPenn. This year for Yale should be really interesting.</p>

<p>At my school I think i am the only black person applying to Yale.</p>

<p>um, this thread has gotten a little confusing since nickel75 posted his stats, so when you chance could you out the name of who you are chancing? thanks</p>

<p>my essay is REALLY good the way it is but it is but it's 680 words. What should I do?!</p>

<p>Word economy. Often times a phrase can be restated with the exact same meaning but with fewer words. I would tell you to read through the essay line at a time and see what can be said with fewer words, while saying the exact same thing. That is what i did.</p>

<p>^ I agree. I had the same problem but my essay was bordering on 800! So, I realized that many sentences were way too wordy and could be shortened. It's hard, but you can do it.</p>

<p>joyogunx, you should probabaly take more SAT 2s than retaking literature...dont they usually require at least 2, usually 3 for ivies? plus, anything 700+ i think is fine, since usually when you've crossed the 700 mark, dont the admission look beyond the test scores? also (and this is based on your previous post in another thread), i might be able to give you peer editing on your essays if youd like! :)</p>

<p>^ actually, since she took the ACT, she doesn't have to send in any SAT 2s</p>

<p>really? i never knew that!
do colleges look at it as a plus or just junk if you submit both?
are sat 2s equally important as sat 1 in the admission factor?</p>

<p>I've actually heard that they would like you to send SAT IIs along with the ACT. I don't know if it's a fact, though.</p>