<p>S finally heard back from three coaches all in the last 3 days (2 this morning). All are NESCAC which is a very tough and competitive group (next to Ivies) 2 came back thumbs up and 1 said he needs to take the SAT 2’ and add another AP. Good to get feedback, and its encouraging for my son who was sitting on pins and needles (me too I cannot lie).</p>
<p>Kwalker, since your son is lacrosse, may I ask how long he has been being recruited?</p>
<p>By the way, congrats! That must make you feel awesome!</p>
<p>With our K2 --we are asking for pre-reads from all schools, D1, and D3. I figured it was worth the effort as it will help K2 narrow down the field and # of apps.
Much nicer to know K2 has a green light, and I am more inclined to pay for the plane tickets to send K2 on OVs to schools that don’t have as big a recruiting budget.
Hopefully K2 will get started on essays. First app went in a couple of days ago.</p>
<p>Nescac and Stemit,
Thanks for the insights. It feels like the first LL offer is the one to take, because you don’t want to discourage anyone unless you have another offer just as strong. Can you accept two LLs? </p>
<p>“I believe your limited to 5 OVs and the earlier weekend you’re invited, the higher in the pecking order is your kid (generally) - and by earlier weekend, I mean relative to each respective school’s calendar.”</p>
<p>How do you know the school’s calendar? One school told kid he is in the first group and can come after their school starts. Due to distance we need to combine the trips over 4 day weekends. The other school does not start visits until later in September. By delaying first school, will that diminish our chances? What is considered the early wave of recruits - first two weeks in September, the month of September, or anytime before ED cutoff of Nov. 1st?</p>
<p>If someone has an OV offer of later October does that mean that the chance of being offered an LL is remote?</p>
<p>Hi not sure what you mean Gingerpeach about how long? Do you mean how long has he been involved in the recruiting process? If so, he has been speaking to coaches maybe lats 5-6 months, started early this year. He has narrowed it down to his personal top 3 and now its the waiting game:) Good luck to everyone and may it all work out for our kids who have worked so hard!</p>
<p>Terrafin</p>
<p>You cannot accept two LLs. Accepting a LL is a commitment to the coach that you are going to attend that school and play for that team. It’s a matter of ethics. The admissions office allows only a certain # of LLs.
When a kid backs out on a coach after accepting a LL–the word gets out. Also it “burns” the hs coach and hs team reputation.</p>
<p>Terrifin,</p>
<p>This may have changed but in general an Ivy will require that you apply ED/SCEA before they will formally issue a LL during the ED period. This makes it virtually impossible to receive 2 LL.</p>
<p>Per NCAA rules in general a D1 recruit cannot take an OV until after the first day of high school senior year classes start and most OV are scheduled prior to the ED deadline of November 1st . Generally an IVY will offer 2 or 3 dates for the OV, an early date near September 1st and a late date during October. Some coaches may attempt to avoid conflict with similar schools so the OV may go in back to back weekends during September.</p>
<p>Terrain. Take the OVs as they come; don’t delay one in trying to keep them in your personal order of preference (some schools begin a few weeks later then others, e.g., Princeton).</p>
<p>We also live far away - every OV was a four day weekend. S found it wasn’t difficult academically (all testing was done; teachers were supportive, etc.). And, adding life experience (after all, in many aspects, an OV is simply a job interview on steroids) is part of the fun of life.</p>
<p>Early wave is considered the first two weekends of the OV window. There will be other OVs available if spots are still open past that first wave. Since OVs are expensive, in schools which pay for it, an OV offer later in the recruiting season means there are still spots open.</p>
<p>kw - thanks, yes, you answered the question 
I was just curious to see how long your player has been on the radar to get a feeling about the timing on lax pre reads. My son has a friend in the lax recruiting process who committed sophomore year and was wondering if he is having the same timing. I was really just curious :)</p>
<p>Hi All
K2 just got another green light on a pre-read!
Its a D1 (not ivy) – however won’t likely get any merit money on the academic side without a stronger fall semester … </p>
<p>Common App goes live tom I think…</p>
<p>As far as LLs…like SwimkidsDad wrote–our scholar-athlete had to apply ED/SCEA with the full app for the LL to be issued.</p>
<p>Congrats, fogfog! What great news!</p>
<p>I admit I am feeling disconnected this week. My son is away at one of those things where they take away your electronics for the week. Have no way of knowing if anything is coming from coaches to his mail or phone and I can’t share anything I get with him u til the weekend. At least I get to hear everyone else’s news! :)</p>
<p>Son just did a camp last weekend. They know his SAT and ACT composites but just asked for his full transcript and all other scores and senior schedule. Good sign, right?</p>
<p>Gingerpeach I do think thats a good sign. To me it says they like what they see so far and want to know more. They wouldn’t ask at this point if they were not definitely interested. Keep on top of things (your son not you:) in a polite way, to show interest. I have learned a lot in these last 3 months and one of the best pieces of advice I heard over and over is that you need to “sell yourself” to the coaches, not them selling themselves to the kids. There are many great athletes who are excellent students and its never been this competitive (some sports more than others). Perseverance and asking the right questions are very important in this process. Best of luck.</p>
<p>Has anyone here experienced or know of an athlete who officially “passed” a pre-read but was not accepted after applying EA or ED? Especially at an Ivy school?</p>
<p>No. There were 5 recruited Ivy athletes in my son’s graduating HS class… and all went off without a hitch. The only place I have heard of things falling through…is reading about it here.</p>
<p>Stemit - thanks for your thoughts in #17 and #28. As far as scheduling the OVs goes, do coaches try to force a kid to make a choice before they have completed their visits? There is slight difference between kids #1 and #2 schools. </p>
<p>My kid has #2 scheduled for early September but #1 two weeks later because it was the first date offered by the school. #2 is a great (equal) option but kid emotionally connected with #1. We are hoping that the coach at #2 won’t try to force a decision with “it’s now or never” before kid gets to experience #1.</p>
<p>Re ivies and LLs…our scholar-athlete only knows of 1 in the last 3 recruited classes that didn’t end well.</p>
<p>Pre-reads done by two ivies and one Nescac so far and everything seemed fine. One of the ivy coaches said that he would support me through admissions and if I applied ED there is a very high likelihood I would get accepted. Still gonna look at a few other ivies and D1 schools before deciding, but hopefully will have the whole process will be done by ED.</p>
<p>^You should be very wary of the Ivy coach who said you’d be supported through admissions. That is the verbiage of D3 where there is much uncertainty until decisions come out. Moreover, the coach will claim all the credit, blame admissions for any problem and tell a recruit next year the same poppycock. </p>
<p>Ivy League recruiting is by way of a completed app submitted to admissions, which then has committees (set up specially for athletes) review the app, if the athlete meets the standards successfully a Likely Letter sent from admissions essentially seals the deal, followed in due course by the official letter (same as every other student).</p>
<p>If you want to attend that school, tell the coach you will need a LL. If the coach hedges, then be aware that you will be competing on your own (without the athletic hook) against the very qualified EA pool.</p>
<p>Yes; I have discussed the LL with the coach, and he said that whenever I submit my app then he will get admissions to issue it. I know/train with a handful of the athletes who go to that ivy and none of them have any issues with the coach’s word and only have the pleasantest things to say about him. thank you for the advice.</p>