Class of 2015 admission stats (from W&M website)

<p>W&M posted some impressive stats on their website about the ~4,400 accepted students for the class of 2015! Here's the link.</p>

<p>William</a> & Mary -*College of William and Mary admits strong class for 2015</p>

<p>W&M Admissions: What was the acceptance % for In-State applicants? how about OOS?</p>

<p>thanks!</p>

<p>^ that’s hot off the press W&M_83 grad :slight_smile: Thanks for the link. Looks like The College is going to have a great mix of (very) smart kids coming in. Kind of scary stats though- esp those SAT scores- for someone who happens to have a young lady that is quickly getting attached to the idea of going there. Hmmm, I wonder if the food coloring dye from that green and gold icing her grandmother decorated her bday cake with last week (grandmother is definitely in cahoots with her :)) can somehow affect her future brainwaves and allow her to ace her board scores next year…;)</p>

<p>Was the additional 50 students for this year’s class all in-state? Just curious.</p>

<p>KandKsmom: you are welcome! I’m sure your daughter will do quite well and end up in the 'burg! I loved my 4 years there and visit quite often! The student body is very tight-knit and the perfect size.</p>

<p>cdk389: The below link indicates 38 of the 50 are in-state.</p>

<p>[William</a> & Mary -*W&M to add more Virginians to entering class](<a href=“http://www.wm.edu/news/stories/2011/wm-to-add-more-virginians-to-entering-class-123.php]William”>W&M to add more Virginians to entering class | William & Mary)</p>

<p>ckd, W&M Grad is correct. 38 of the 50 additional students were in-state. The goal W&M set forth is to add 150 additional VA residents to our undergraduate student body over the next several years. In order to maintain the 65%/35% IS/OOS ratio we will also be admitting a smaller number of additional OOS students each year.</p>

<p>KandKsmom, remember that standardized testing is only one part of our process and we do review the applicant’s best scores so we encourage any student to take a standardized test at least twice to give themselves every advantage.</p>

<p>W&M Grad, unfortunately we’re not yet at liberty to release stats that weren’t part of the press release. However, just as our overall admission rate increased slightly, in order to accommodate the increase in our class size, it is fait to assume that our admit rates for both IS and OOS increased slightly but not demonstratively. Generally we admit between 37-40% of the IS students who apply and 25-28% of the OOS students who apply.</p>

<p>thanks W&M admissions for the additional info!</p>

<p>Any time. In August (once Orientation begins and the new students arrive on campus), final stats for the Class of 2015 will be released both to the media and to the Common Data Set.</p>

<p>W&M Admissions: What was the acceptance % for In-State applicants? how about OOS? I’m looking for additional stats on the class of 2015.</p>

<p>thanks!</p>

<p>This year’s admission rates were slightly higher than usual given the need to bring in an additional 50 students and 20 students for the new joint degree program with St Andrews.</p>

<p>The in-state admission rate was 44%. The out-of-state admission rate was 29%. </p>

<p>Again, these rates are slightly above average (generally the in-state admission rate is in the mid-to-upper 30%ile and the out-of-state admit rate around 27%). Given that most of the additional students we brought in were Virginian (38 of the additional 50) that accounts for the higher in-state rate which will likely be lower this coming year now that we have a yield model for the additional students.</p>

<p>thanks so much!</p>

<p>Well, these numbers concern me. I understand that the College has effectively been compelled by the state to increase its class size over time. And I understand that admissions officers have a very difficult job to do in selecting each year’s class. Without a large increase in the number of applications (and the increase in applications from 2014 to 2015 was not that significant, as I recall–a few hundred maybe?), it may have seemed reasonable to err on the side of admitting more students, given the unpredictablities associated with assembling a class (yield, in-state, out-of-state ratio, etc.). But if W&M drifts into routinely having an acceptance rate of 36 to 37 percent, it will eventually cease to be what it is, and it will lock itself in to being the third best institution of higher learning in the commonwealth. I know it’s a challenge, year after year, and I know the school is woefully underfunded. But this is a critical fork in the road.</p>

<p>I am not especially happy with the numbers either, but I don’t think W&M is in any immediate danger of falling to 3rd in the state.</p>

<p>curious as to what other school you are tossing into the ring with UVA and W&M… W&L? Richmond?</p>

<p>Our overall admission rate for this past year was 35%…up only 1% from the previous year. W&M is still a highly selective institution and we have no desire to alter that. Predicting yield for a larger class, a brand new program (the joint degree program) and in the face of some tough economic times is especially difficult. And we actually were just slightly above target. </p>

<p>When we calculate yield and number of admits, the admission rate is always a top priority and we very much protect our holistic and selective nature.</p>

<p>Thank you for the thoughtful replies. W&M is a remarkable school, and I am confident that it will remain that way.</p>

<p>From an instate perspective, W&M still had a lower acceptance rate (albeit very modest) versus UVA (44% vs 45%)–which has been true year, after year. The big difference b/w UVA and W&M is that UVA saw a larger increase (year over year) in OOS applicants than W&M. UVA’s instate applications actually decreased just a tad versus prior year. </p>

<p>From what I’ve read, this was a tough year for both UVA and W&M in terms of trying to estimate the yield for the incremental students each wanted take on. In fact, I read that UVA is having trouble finding rooms for the extra students and required, in some cases, doubles to become triples (room layouts). </p>

<p>In terms of lowering the W&M acceptance rate, W&M should focus on 3 things:

  1. increasing the number of overall applications (duh)—not easy to do, but perhaps with increased national and INTERNATIONAL exposure (football, 2nd oldest university, St. Andrews impact), along with increased development/alumni efforts, it’s very achievable.
  2. increasing the number of MALE applicants (and the yield for males). I see big potential here, and I’m encouraged by things like: new fraternity houses (huge, in my opinion; but won’t see the impact until 2013), Tribe square and New Town, and continued football success! I still think we need to lower standards for basketball players. There’s no reason we can’t double our b-ball win/loss ratio over the next few years. Also, need the Green Leafe to move forward with the dance club in the basement. Why isn’t that on track?
  3. Increasing the yield. UVA doesn’t have to admit as many students because it enjoys a 20 ppt. yield differential. People just don’t turn down UVA very often. The good news is that items 1 and 2 above will increase the yield (while increasing the number of applicants). In my opinion, UVA is at risk of becoming too big, which will only help W&M. There’s a lot of students who may think twice about UVA once it hits it’s new “state mandated” size.</p>

<p>Overall, I’m confident that W&M is on the right track! The best is just around the corner!!</p>

<p>my 2 cents…</p>

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<p>I understand your reasoning, but lowering standards for any reason sounds like a bad idea to me. Do you really think more guys would come to W&M if the bball team had a better record? That just doesn’t seem like W&M’s niche to me.</p>
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<p>Yes, lower the standard === but not lower than the standard for football players. Things may have changed, but when I was in school the basketball players were actually pretty smart. Not so for the many of the football players. just my opinion. I could be wrong</p>

<p>Our bball team is on the rise. Two years ago they beat Wake and Maryland and went to the NIT. The recruits we are bringing in are increasing in quality every year. Good things are happening.</p>

<p>Hopefully we will squash UVA again in a couple weeks, but they will probably not take us as an automatic win this time.</p>

<p>All of our athletes go through the same review process as our applicants and regardless of team, there are standards that any recruited athlete must meet to be granted admission.</p>

<p>We are certainly working to do all that has been mentioned (increase yield, increase pool size, decrease admission rate, etc.). As demographics change (fewer students are graduating high school) these will become more difficult to do but every year we work hard to bring in the best class possible.</p>

<p>Just my 2 cents on the basketball front. Looks like the team has some very good guards, but needs a strong, big man or two!!! Without addressing that weakness, they will get muscled out of too many games. I guess we’ll see whether the coach has been able to address this issue based on the rebounding stats this year.</p>