<p>Ok thanks, if he doesn’t pass the audition, could he still go there and study something else?</p>
<p>@tmygirl - I don’t know about Michigan, but I don’t think so at Carnegie - UNLESS you apply under a different major as well. At some schools where my D was not accepted artistically (Ithaca for example) when she got that letter/email/whatever it was there was an opportunity to contact the university if you were interested in a different major. CMU did not do this, and D had the stats where she could well have been a candidate for the school in another major. Of course, as I understand it- it’s pretty tough to get into CMU with all their majors, so I don’t think they need the extra theater kids (IMHO)</p>
<p>I’m making the travel arrangements, filling out demographic info on applications, scheduling prescreen filming, and trying to stay on top of all the separate items the colleges need(transcripts, test scores, LOR, etc). But I have to admit, in a moment of crazy panic this past weekend, I got up at 6 and added another school to D list and filled out the application. Hey, all she has to do is write one more essay and submit one more prescreen, for one more shot at being accepted. Hoping I can control my crazy panic moments in the next few months, but doubt it.</p>
<p>I actually asked CMU about this topic a couple of years ago and the admissions rep said that you can elect another major and be considered for it . She even offered to amend my son’s spplication tho he decided that he didn’t want to go to CMU for anything but acting (and didn’t get in for that).</p>
<p>Thanks. The chips will fall as they will. MT route was chosen less than a year ago. Luckily his grades and testing are excellent. I know he will end up where he is supposed to. He LOVES this MT route… I only wish it wasn’t so darn competitive… HOLY SMOKES!! He got a letter from Harvard and threw it out bc they don’t have a theatre program :/. Seriously? Taking deep cleansing breaths!</p>
<p>@mtflmomof1 The last minute add for my daughter ended up being the one she loved and she started school two weeks ago and is in heaven.</p>
<p>When you fill out the Common App for CMU, they ask you about which colleges you are applying to. You are allowed up to three, so you could apply to Drama, Music, and Dietrich, for example.</p>
<p>@tmygirl - to answer your Michigan question - you would have to apply to Michigan in a different program as well. Unlike many other schools - the academic and artistic admit are NOT separate. They are bundled together - so even if academically your son COULD be admitted to Michigan - if he only applies for MT and is rejected - he’s out of luck. If he wants to perhaps pursue a different degree if he doesn’t get into MT - he needs to submit a 2nd application for that program. (I actually know a kid who did EXACTLY that in the HS class of 2014. He applied for both MT and Engineering - and is pursuing Engineering and is in the Marching Band!) It’s worth calling the admissions office to find out exactly how to navigate that one. My D had no interest in attending if she wasn’t admitted MT - so we did not explore that option. The prescreen is both artistic and academic - so if a student passes the prescreen - they do have the minimum academic credentials to be admitted as an MT. I believe he can use the same Common App and Supplemental essays - and would just need any additional program specific essays/materials required by the second program.</p>
<p>Thank you. He has done much of the apps, but we are waiting to submit everything once we get our financial ducks in a row. Wow, just applying is going to be a small fortune! I’ll have him review what he can apply to for choices/back up etc. thanks!</p>
<p>@tmygirl - tell your son he may want to pull that Harvard letter out of the trash. We have a friend who turned down Carnegie Mellon (admitted to their acting program) in favor of Harvard a few years ago. She is just starting her junior year there. She was a Young Arts winner, Interlochen grad, etc… very talented and very smart. Also of note, one of the female leads in the Tony award winning Gentleman’s Guide is also a Harvard grad. They do have a very active theatre scene on campus. It is just not a BFA style program. It may be worthy of consideration. </p>
<p>Thank you @vvnstar. I have to have a big heart to heart with him about making the most options as possible…whether it is MT BFA vs another route. Yale has been very interested and the thing they promote is that a Yale education could cost less than an instate public school!! Hello! I told him if he got in there, he could take private vocals and take dance @ a studio. I don’t know. This is so very hard. So many of you have kids that have known for years that this is what they wanted. My son literally has been in ONE musical. Sorry had to vent. We are supporting him. It is just hard :/. Thanks for being here everyone and again, sorry for the rant!</p>
<p>@tmygirl My daughter went with the school that gave her basically free tuition. The money we are saving she can take extra acting classes, study in London (her dream) etc. Lots of options out there. Have your son stay as open as possible and apply to all different kinds of programs. What he wants today could easily change by the end of this process. It did for my daughter. </p>
<p>I posted this on common app board but I want to ask the ‘experts’ here too. I hope it was ok that I submitted the common apps BEFORE any letters of rec were completed? My school uses naviance and I had to invited teachers that way and they’re not even showing up on commonapp website yet. But I need to do pre-screens before scheduling auditions and with the first come first serve mentality, I freaked out and submitted my apps. I hope I didn’t screw it up! </p>
<p>Also, how long do you know that a school received your app? Don’t they notify you in some way or nothing until an admission decision?</p>
<p>@techtheater - it is fine for you to submit, in fact, you probably have to submit before a letter could be “assigned” to your file! Your teachers will get an email telling them they have been “invited” to submit via common app- at least, that’s what mine does. Then when they log on to the teacher college board account, they can see students who have assigned them as a recommender. </p>
<p>As for “how do you know” Check marks will appear on your common app as you complete phases. Most (If not all) of my D’s schools sent either an email or snail mail letting her know when all parts were in. </p>
<p>@tmygirl - my D did the EXACT same thing…tossing the letter aside and saying "Why would I want to go to Harvard?’ I had a minor panic attack that day!</p>
<p>Harvard is actually a really great place to do theater! ART is now the out-of-town workshop/tryout place of choice. Diane Paulus just finished work on “Finding Neverland” there and before that, “Pippin” and before that “Porgy and Bess”. The recent Broadway production of “All the Way” began there and its MFA program is also very highly thought of. </p>
<p>Yale has an amazing undergraduate theater scene - lots of very exciting stuff going on both in the major and outside it. Princeton is quite renowned for both theater and dance. These are schools where you will connect and develop relationships with the kids who will be writing and directing some of the most dynamic work in the theater. All of those schools are extremely affordable for low-income families. </p>
<p>However, if admitted you have to want to engage with very challenging liberal arts classes at the same time you are doing shows. Nothing worth panicking about in any case. By the by, all these and more are notorious these days for soliciting applications willy nilly because the more apps they receive, the lower their admissions percentage goes. More competitive = more highly ranked. I don’t mean to say that either of your kids is not qualified or could not handle an extremely competitive ivy league school - only that Harvard would not be a great fit for a kid with less than passionate interest in the liberal arts. It’s good that your kid is clear about what s/he wants. Imagine how it would feel for one of these to turn out to be a bad fit. Ouch. Return to go and do not collect…</p>
<p>I feel ya @vocal1046 and that kind of has me scratching my head. My S has been in one musical, which changed him for sure…he has been training nonstop ever since, but that said…only training since March. He has this passion now, but who knows in a year or two. I can’t say that it doesn’t bother me that my S is applying to some schools that require a 19-24 on ACTs, while he got a 35. So I am a little nervous that he is going to get into a situation in which it’s not the right fit. Everything will shake out after prescreens and auditions. My heart wants him to pass with flying colors, my head not so much :/</p>
<p>New to the forums, so I guess I’ll do an introductory post here… I’m a senior in high school, and I’m new to theatre and still lacking any practical MT experience (school resources, curriculum rigor not giving me any time, etc)… but… I have a lot of enthusiasm! I’m an alto - I love them low notes. I like quirky and comedic roles but I like them best if I can add in something sad as well. I’ve also played serious roles before, like the Stage Manager in a production of Our Town - so much fun! I have almost no dance experience, except for being really really great at those Just Dance games. Does that count? Heh.</p>
<p>I have a really wide range of interests and it’s hard to find a school that’s strong in everything I want. Therefore, only a few of the schools I’m applying to (two that I can think of, and one of those is a ‘stretch’ school that wouldn’t allow MT double-majors) have an auditioned program… or even curricular MT at all? I believe that is the case, but I will have to double-check.</p>
<p>tmygirl, I feel like I’m in a similar situation to your S (minus the one musical part). Right now I’m really really passionate about getting into an MT program, but there is a small part of me that worries about how I’ll feel about everything in two years or so - I’ve been interested since 6th grade when I saw a local HS put on a Calamity Jane production, but I just have never had the time, so there’s always this fear that I’m going to try and not be any good. I do certainly feel like I have a lot to prove! I hope everything goes well for your S - he’s definitely not the only one in this position! :)</p>
<p>@sillyslytherin - I answered your other post in depth- but wanted to add a follow up, if you already have schools on your list- where are you considering?</p>
<p>@techtheater - make sure to follow up with teachers on common app/naviance letters of rec. We had issues last year with the email requests being “blocked” by email filters - especially for voice teacher using a university email address (but even teachers in son’s H.S. did not always get the common app request - or so they said). Last year common app and Navince were not “speaking” to each other very well. Hopefully all the kinks are out this year.</p>