Classics at LAC's

<p>Liberal Arts College Classics Programs </p>

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<p>I'm not sure if anyone can help with me out with this, but currently I'm a freshman at Arizona State (took a full national merit scholarship to go here). I'm looking to transfer, mostly to be admitted to a school with a very powerful Classics Dept. From scanning some threads I've found on here, I found most of the good national universities to consider, but not many people mentioned specific LAC's when discussing Classics Dept's. One thing I hate about ASU is how big it is. So basically, I'm asking if anyone can give me advice on LAC's that are strong in Classics. Here's a quick profile of me:</p>

<p>Cumulative GPA: 3.9
SAT I: 1460 (730/730)
SAT II: writing 740, math 740, us history 660
Captain of two varsity sports, national merit finalist, AP Scholar w/ distinction, 2 time National Latin Exam gold medalist, 1 time NLE silver medalist, founder and editor of school newspaper.</p>

<p>I hope that helps give you some reference as to what schools I might consider. You can still feel free to post some quality universities you think I should consider. THANKS!</p>

<p>You're right about the classics in that the best programs seem to be found at universities, from Harvard to Berkeley to blah. Here's what I've come up with on searching this site:</p>

<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=89594&highlight=classics%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=89594&highlight=classics&lt;/a>
Mentions Harvard, Brown, and Williams.</p>

<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=88384&highlight=classics%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=88384&highlight=classics&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Mentions U Chicago, The top undergraduate programs are:
Brown University
Harvard University
Princeton University
University of California-Berkeley
University of Chicago
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
Yale University</p>

<p>Some other top undergraduate programs in the classics include:
Columbia University
Cornell University
Duke University
Stanford University
University of California-Los Angeles
University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill
University of Pennsylvania
University of Texas-Austin
and Holy Cross in Worchester.</p>

<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=100776&highlight=classics%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=100776&highlight=classics&lt;/a>
has a list that includes Bryn Mawr, Fordham, Reed, the Claremonts, and Amherst, Williams, Swarthmore, amongst others.</p>

<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=104356&highlight=classics%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=104356&highlight=classics&lt;/a>
says nothing new, really.</p>

<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=104683&highlight=classics%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=104683&highlight=classics&lt;/a> puts BC on the list of mentions.</p>

<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=111015&highlight=classics%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=111015&highlight=classics&lt;/a>
also doesn't mention much new stuff, although it talks about St Johns College.</p>

<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=140203&highlight=classics%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=140203&highlight=classics&lt;/a>
Alright, I didn't feel like reading this one. You should, though. :)</p>

<p>Yeah, I don't know what to say. The classics programs at universities tend to have much smaller classes than other programs. It's good that you're keeping an open mind about where to go.</p>

<p>Oh, also, someone mentioned Grinnell, and former/current Women's college in the Northeast (a fairly large generalization I'm skeptical of, but whatever).</p>

<p>What about St. John's college? Their entire curriculum is based on Classics. There's one in New Mexico, and another in Annapolis, MD.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.stjohnscollege.edu%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.stjohnscollege.edu&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>On classics and on literature are two different things. Some of the threads go into it.</p>

<p>What are you talking about? A lot of the books listed on the website of st. john's college are classics: at least from what I can tell.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.stjohnscollege.edu/asp/main.aspx?page=1302&parent=1003#f%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.stjohnscollege.edu/asp/main.aspx?page=1302&parent=1003#f&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>What I'm talking about the convention of modern academia, which is to call that which is ancient Roman or Greek "the Classics," and stuff other than that not "the Classics." Classics includes the language of Greek, Latin, and the history and study of all aspects of these cultures. Like I've said in previous posts, St Johns stops doing what most colleges would call "Classics" after the early middle of the sophomore year. St Johns is great, I'm not saying it isn't in the least (although it, like most places, isn't for everyone). What it doesn't provide is a thorough education in the classics compared to what you would be available in a good, deep classics department. Also, if you transfer there, no matter what you've studied, you start as a freshman, and it would take at least four years to graduate (if that is in an issue for anyone).</p>

<p>A Classics major myself, I would recommend looking at Holy Cross in Worcester. The student to faculty ratio is 11:1 and it is exclusively undergraduate, so you wont have graduate students teaching your classes. The total full time enrollment is around 3,000 students. Despite this, Holy Cross has the largest Classics Departments of any LAC. Also, if you have any qualms about attending a school with "Holy" in the name, keep in mind that the Jesuits are very progressive, and you will arguably get the best Classical education at Holy Cross. Also, I have heard good things about Brown, Tufts, Princeton, Yale, Northwestern, and UPenn. Though attending Harvard comes with a certain amount of prestige I have heard from teachers that the undergraduate program for Classics isn't the best. Also, St. Johns in NM is not what your looking for.</p>

<p>I second Holy Cross</p>