I purchased my first Jura (Impressa?) quite a while ago after I ran across one of their machines on the club floor of a hotel in Barcelona. I enjoyed that machine for years until it met an untimely end during a moving incident. After that I reverted to French press and Mocha Master for a while, but then returned to a Jura Z6. I’m perfectly happy with this machine
1 Like
I too had an Impressa. The Z6 is way more robust. If I was buying a super-automatic and had the budget, that’s the way I’d go. The issue with the cheaper models, no matter the brand, is that they have more plastic and fail sooner. I had 2 Impressas. Both failed. The first time, I rebuilt. The second time I replaced with a Saeco. When it failed, we bailed on supers. I probably wasn’t nearly as diligent as I should have been on maintenance! 
I can adjust the grind on my machine if I want to, and I have, but it grinds and tamps for me. 2 fewer steps I need to take.
Dh did a lot of research and watched many videos on the various machines before we came to an agreement on this one.
I love my moccamaster. Replacing the arm makes better coffee? I am interested in this so let me know why I should do this if you don’t mind.
You can adjust the grind in steps on most super-automatics. Most can’t adjust dose though. With a stepless grinder and a scale, you have MUCH more control if you care about that sort of thing. Most people don’t. Those that do, care a lot. It’s very much like automatic transmission vs. manual.
The Moccamaster outlet arm typically has a single hole. If you replace it with one with multiple holes, you get more even extraction across the bed. Yours may already have that though. This is what you’re looking for. It’s the piece that drips the water into the ground coffee.
2 Likes
Thank you for all the advise. I think I’m going to find a moderately (relative term) priced superautomatic. The Jura and Breville Oracle look beautiful, but I’m not feeling up to paying $2000+ until I know I like using this type of machine. Hope I’m not being shortsighted … it sounds if you do get what you pay for with the superautomatics.
Leaning to Gaggia Cadorna models or DeLonghi (I don’t think anyone mentioned Dinamicas or Magnificas).
I always made pots of coffee when I entertained, but will hold off on that one as I don’t think I’ve had more that 4 people in my home since Thanksgiving 2019!
My H was looking at the DiLonghi too but was able to try a cup of espresso and was underwhelmed.
One of the things he loves about the Gaggia is being able to program exactly how strong you want the cup and then save up four user preferences per drink.
1 Like
So helpful! I really like hot, strong - a connoisseur would say bitter - coffee.
@JBSeattle I already have a Nespresso that I wish I liked more. I think it’s the Citiz? I just can’t get it hot enough and the Lungos always seem a bit weak. Love the aeroccino for hot chocolate, though
I typically do two cortos and heat a small amount of milk in the micro for 11 seconds. Some models heat the milk, there is a frothed etc for Nespresso but that is my wife’s system that I have copied.
The trade off you’ll get by spending less is potentially shorter lifespan of the machine. That said, my folks have had a Gaggia for quite a few years without a problem. Welcome to the coffee rabbit hole! 
We are in the hunt for a new coffee machine. Had a DeLonghi 10 years ago which later broke. Very loud machine. I use the Technivorm now, but I want to go back to a machine that lets me have a cup when I want it at the press of a button. I wake up super early for the European markets and want coffee early but my souse wants coffee 2 hours later- which by then isn’t as fresh. I am not too crazy about Nespresso with all those pods I have to recycle. I have that at work as well and it’s fine, but I want something better. Thinking of the Jura. But since we’ve been searching what to buy- I get all these coffee makers on my FB feed. One came up that looked super sleek- Spinn. Reviews are mixed, but it’s a machine I had never heard of.
You guys talk about coffee. I’m just wondering what is the best coffee maker for hot and iced both coffees. I read a few reviews but I want something that any one of you using the both styled coffee machine.
It’s a completely different process if you want to make real iced coffee. It’s lower acid because it never gets warm. All you need is a jar and a diffuser. Any machine will work though if you just want to chill regularly brewed coffee.
My D uses my Jura to make iced coffee. It has a setting that uses pressure only to brew a cold shot of coffee. Add ice and milk (her choice) and yer done.
1 Like
That will likely be even yet another beast, also likely good.